From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  2 13:55:33 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (John F Davis)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:55:33 -0400
Subject: [RHCE] meeting today?
Message-ID: <OFFC2684B0.C447E3E3-ON87256BEA.004707F9@boulder.ibm.com>

Hello Fellows,

Are we having a RHCE meeting/class this evening?

JD



From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  2 14:09:21 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Holton, Steven [NC1:JR04:EXCH])
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 09:09:21 -0400
Subject: [RHCE] meeting today?
References: <OFFC2684B0.C447E3E3-ON87256BEA.004707F9@boulder.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <3D21A601.24B88048@nortelnetworks.com>

John F Davis wrote:
> 
> Hello Fellows,
> 
> Are we having a RHCE meeting/class this evening?

No. Meeting 4 is set for Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm
Agenda:
  Led by Steven Holton
    Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
   - Kickstart
   - Network installs
   - Typical install "gotchas"

I'll have a more complete agenda hopefully this evening.

The meeting schedule is posted here:
   http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce/2002-June/000011.html
-- 
Steve Holton                                       ESN 35-18811

From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  2 10:10:54 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Sinner from the Prairy)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:10:54 +0000
Subject: [RHCE] meeting today?
In-Reply-To: <OFFC2684B0.C447E3E3-ON87256BEA.004707F9@boulder.ibm.com>
References: <OFFC2684B0.C447E3E3-ON87256BEA.004707F9@boulder.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <200207020910.54898.sinner@escomposlinux.org>

Avui, Dimarts 02 Juliol 2002 12:55, no tenieu res mes que fer i me vareu 
enviar aquest e-mail
> Hello Fellows,
>
> Are we having a RHCE meeting/class this evening?

> JD


Please correct me if I'm wrong. But I understand that next class is next 
tuesday.

Jim gave a very good class last Tuesday (June 25th) about Linux 
administration, sudo, quotas ... BTW, thank you Jim for the class.

Check out the schedule at 

http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce/2002-June/000011.html



Salut,
Sinner / Josep
-- 
RedHat QA Test Engineer  --  Running RedHat 7.3 on i386smp
http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/

From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  2 14:18:42 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Holton, Steven [NC1:JR04:EXCH])
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 09:18:42 -0400
Subject: [RHCE] FYI - Free RHCE Test Prep site
References: <OF519D85F7.D631F5E9-ON87256BDC.0041BAEA@boulder.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <3D21A832.7A3A53C3@nortelnetworks.com>

John F Davis wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> Is there a meeting tonight?

No. The next meeting is:

Meeting 3 (Tuesday, June 25, 7-9pm) Led by Jim
Thompson
Configuration and Administration 
- User accounts - create/delete
- home directory issues
- linuxconf
- Redhat package manager
- Chkconfig
- Quotas
- File system commands (ls, cp, rm, mv, chown, chgrp, ln....)

The meeting schedule is posted here:
   http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce/2002-June/000011.html

-- 
Steve Holton
Little Billy Goat Gruff.

From rhce@trilug.org  Mon Jul  8 11:48:19 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Sinner from the Prairy)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:48:19 +0000
Subject: [RHCE] Next class is... tomorrow the 9th
Message-ID: <200207081048.19473.sinner@escomposlinux.org>

Hi there,

Remember your RHCE class?

Meeting 4 (Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm) Led by Steven Holton
Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
- Kickstart
- Network installs
- Typical install "gotchas"

Also, what happened to Jim's presentation? is it available anywhere? I can put 
it on my website, as a tar.gz, like mine. I have room.



Salut,
Josep / Sinner
-- 
RedHat QA Test Engineer  --  Running RedHat 7.3 on i386smp
http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/

From rhce@trilug.org  Mon Jul  8 16:28:56 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Holton, Steven [NC1:JR04:EXCH])
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 11:28:56 -0400
Subject: [RHCE] Next class is... tomorrow the 9th
References: <200207081048.19473.sinner@escomposlinux.org>
Message-ID: <3D29AFB8.6EBAED6A@nortelnetworks.com>

Sinner from the Prairy wrote:

> Meeting 4 (Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm) Led by Steven Holton
> Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
> - Kickstart
> - Network installs
> - Typical install "gotchas"

How much of the 2 hours do we want to spend on "lecture" and
how much do we want to spend on "lab"? 

Since Anaconda (the Red Hat installer) is best run during a
live install, you almost have to have a sacrificial system to
learn to use it. I'm presuming not everyone has a spare system they're willing
to put "under the knife" to learn installs, but 
that some people will be bringing in a system for just that.

Is anyone planning to bring in a sacrificial system to test
installs?  If not, I'll see what I can scrounge up.

It might also be nice to have a laptop (or some other PCMCIA-encumbered
system) to practice driver disk installs,
but I can't provide one of those.

I'm presuming the focus of tomorrow night's meeting will be
to allow people to become familiar with the Red Hat installer
and how to install Red Hat using something other than the 
usual "pop in the CD, click and go" install.

- Creating a dual (duel?) bootable system.
- Installing from network sources: NFS/FTP/HTTP
- Installing with a kickstart

We'll also need a box to act as a network server and a 
network to connect them. I'm planning to bring in a 
combination DHCP/WEB/FTP/NFS server if we won't have
those facilities available. I'll also bring in a 5-port
hub if that's helpful.

Or, if any of this is unnecessary, let me know.

And I'll post a list tonight of the "core competencies" 
each of us (in my opinion) should understand how to 
accomplish in this area. That list will likely be the 
core of my presentation as well.

I'll summarize what we've discussed after the lab and create
a web page with the summary afterward.

-- 
Steve Holton                                       ESN 35-18811
sholton@mindspring.com
sholton@nortelnetworks.com

From rhce@trilug.org  Mon Jul  8 17:25:47 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (rhce@trilug.org)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:25:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [RHCE] Next class is... tomorrow the 9th
In-Reply-To: <3D29AFB8.6EBAED6A@nortelnetworks.com>
References: <200207081048.19473.sinner@escomposlinux.org>
 <3D29AFB8.6EBAED6A@nortelnetworks.com>
Message-ID: <34684.127.0.0.1.1026145547.squirrel@tower.homelinux.org>

i'll have a server available, running 7.2.  the CD contents of 7.2 and 7.3
will be copied to the disk and available via the network.  i'll provide a
hub/switch and patch cables as well.  if the rest of the group can provide
a sacrificial workstation or two (and maybe a laptop) we should have
everything needed.  we can use the existing monitors/kbd/mice in the lab
so there's no need to lug them around.  let me know if anything needs
anything else, i will try to round it up before we get started.


jason



> Sinner from the Prairy wrote:
>
>> Meeting 4 (Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm) Led by Steven Holton
>> Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
>> - Kickstart
>> - Network installs
>> - Typical install "gotchas"
>
> How much of the 2 hours do we want to spend on "lecture" and
> how much do we want to spend on "lab"?
>
> Since Anaconda (the Red Hat installer) is best run during a
> live install, you almost have to have a sacrificial system to
> learn to use it. I'm presuming not everyone has a spare system they're
> willing to put "under the knife" to learn installs, but
> that some people will be bringing in a system for just that.
>
> Is anyone planning to bring in a sacrificial system to test
> installs?  If not, I'll see what I can scrounge up.
>
> It might also be nice to have a laptop (or some other PCMCIA-encumbered
> system) to practice driver disk installs,
> but I can't provide one of those.
>
> I'm presuming the focus of tomorrow night's meeting will be
> to allow people to become familiar with the Red Hat installer
> and how to install Red Hat using something other than the
> usual "pop in the CD, click and go" install.
>
> - Creating a dual (duel?) bootable system.
> - Installing from network sources: NFS/FTP/HTTP
> - Installing with a kickstart
>
> We'll also need a box to act as a network server and a
> network to connect them. I'm planning to bring in a
> combination DHCP/WEB/FTP/NFS server if we won't have
> those facilities available. I'll also bring in a 5-port
> hub if that's helpful.
>
> Or, if any of this is unnecessary, let me know.
>
> And I'll post a list tonight of the "core competencies"
> each of us (in my opinion) should understand how to
> accomplish in this area. That list will likely be the
> core of my presentation as well.
>
> I'll summarize what we've discussed after the lab and create
> a web page with the summary afterward.
>
> --
> Steve Holton                                       ESN 35-18811
> sholton@mindspring.com
> sholton@nortelnetworks.com
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce




From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  9 11:34:19 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (sholton)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 06:34:19 -0400
Subject: [RHCE] Meeting 4 (LAB) tonight.
Message-ID: <v02130500b9506b49aa0d@[10.0.1.2]>

Just a reminder, the RHCE study meets tonight at 7:00
This is a lab session covering installs, so if you have 
a sacrifical system you can spare, bring it along.

Jason will make available a server, network, etc so all
you really need is a spare CPU and hard disk.

Here's some typical install situations you should be
familiar with: If you're not confident of your ability 
to perform, find someone who can show you how to do it 
and ask for help.

1. The box has a CD drive, but the BIOS cannot be set to
   boot from it.
   - Know how to create a boot floppy using both RAWRITE
     and dd

2. The box has no CD drive, but the files from the CDROMs
   have been copied to a volume on the hard disk.
   - Know how to do an install from a local hard disk.

3. The box has a CD drive, but it's a "vintage" model
   (SoundBlasterPro) which is not recognized as an ATAPI drive. 
   - Know how to install when the CDROM isn't recognized.
   - Know how to use a driver disk to initialize hardware
     which is not recognized by Red Hat out of the box.

4. The box has no CD drive, but it does have a network
   card.
   - Know how to net install from a NFS volume with the
     files.
   - Know how to net install with FTP.
   - Know how to net install from HTTP.

5. The box has a Windows install, which must be preserved.
   - Know how to create a dual boot setup.
   - Understand the boot loaders:
     - LILO
     - GRUB
    
6. The box needs a Red Hat Linux install, and the
   configuration requires some of the volumes to be software RAID.
   - Know how to use Disk Druid to setup a software RAID
     system.
   - Understand the different RAID levels:
     - RAID 0 : Striping - performance only.
     - RAID 1 : Mirroring - survives the loss of all but
                the last mirror.
     - RAID 5 : Parity Striping - best disk space usage.

7. You are in a maze of a thousand twisty Red Hat Installs,
   all alike.
   - Know how to automate the install using Kickstart.
   - Know how to create a KickStart file.
   - Know how to run an install using a kichstart disk.

See you all there.

-- 
Innovation is a wildflower; you cannot choose where it will flower,
you can only choose where it won't.

sholton@mindspring.com



From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  9 12:48:25 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (rhce@trilug.org)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:48:25 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [RHCE] tonight
Message-ID: <33025.10.0.0.253.1026215305.webemail@www.godaddywebmail.com>

I will be bringing a laptop with Redhat 7.3 installed for us to work
with,<BR>Rock<BR>



From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  9 02:00:11 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (nroskam@rr.nc.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:00:11 -0400
Subject: [RHCE] I will bring a laptop
In-Reply-To: <34684.127.0.0.1.1026145547.squirrel@tower.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <000001c226e3$fa632b30$6501a8c0@proxp>

I will bring a laptop that already has 7.3 installed but we can alter
it.
Sincerely,
Rock 

-----Original Message-----
From: rhce-admin@trilug.org [mailto:rhce-admin@trilug.org] On Behalf Of
jason@tower.homelinux.org
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 12:26 PM
To: rhce@trilug.org
Subject: Re: [RHCE] Next class is... tomorrow the 9th

i'll have a server available, running 7.2.  the CD contents of 7.2 and
7.3
will be copied to the disk and available via the network.  i'll provide
a
hub/switch and patch cables as well.  if the rest of the group can
provide
a sacrificial workstation or two (and maybe a laptop) we should have
everything needed.  we can use the existing monitors/kbd/mice in the lab
so there's no need to lug them around.  let me know if anything needs
anything else, i will try to round it up before we get started.


jason



> Sinner from the Prairy wrote:
>
>> Meeting 4 (Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm) Led by Steven Holton
>> Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
>> - Kickstart
>> - Network installs
>> - Typical install "gotchas"
>
> How much of the 2 hours do we want to spend on "lecture" and
> how much do we want to spend on "lab"?
>
> Since Anaconda (the Red Hat installer) is best run during a
> live install, you almost have to have a sacrificial system to
> learn to use it. I'm presuming not everyone has a spare system they're
> willing to put "under the knife" to learn installs, but
> that some people will be bringing in a system for just that.
>
> Is anyone planning to bring in a sacrificial system to test
> installs?  If not, I'll see what I can scrounge up.
>
> It might also be nice to have a laptop (or some other
PCMCIA-encumbered
> system) to practice driver disk installs,
> but I can't provide one of those.
>
> I'm presuming the focus of tomorrow night's meeting will be
> to allow people to become familiar with the Red Hat installer
> and how to install Red Hat using something other than the
> usual "pop in the CD, click and go" install.
>
> - Creating a dual (duel?) bootable system.
> - Installing from network sources: NFS/FTP/HTTP
> - Installing with a kickstart
>
> We'll also need a box to act as a network server and a
> network to connect them. I'm planning to bring in a
> combination DHCP/WEB/FTP/NFS server if we won't have
> those facilities available. I'll also bring in a 5-port
> hub if that's helpful.
>
> Or, if any of this is unnecessary, let me know.
>
> And I'll post a list tonight of the "core competencies"
> each of us (in my opinion) should understand how to
> accomplish in this area. That list will likely be the
> core of my presentation as well.
>
> I'll summarize what we've discussed after the lab and create
> a web page with the summary afterward.
>
> --
> Steve Holton                                       ESN 35-18811
> sholton@mindspring.com
> sholton@nortelnetworks.com
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce



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From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  9 15:49:37 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Frank Pittenger)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:49:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [RHCE] Meeting 4 (LAB) tonight.
In-Reply-To: <v02130500b9506b49aa0d@[10.0.1.2]>
Message-ID: <ML-3.4.1026226177.6838.fpitteng@fpitteng-u5.cisco.com>

The schedule shows that tonight's meeting runs from 6-10:
Meeting 4 (Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm) Led by Steven
Holton
Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
- Kickstart
- Network installs
- Typical install "gotchas"

Steven's reminder below states that tonight's meeting starts at 7:00.

I don't want to be an hour late (or an hour early).  Is it 6:00 or 7:00?

Frank

On  9-Jul-02 at 06:35, sholton (sholton@mindspring.com) wrote:
> Just a reminder, the RHCE study meets tonight at 7:00
> This is a lab session covering installs, so if you have 
> a sacrifical system you can spare, bring it along.
> 
> Jason will make available a server, network, etc so all
> you really need is a spare CPU and hard disk.
> 
> Here's some typical install situations you should be
> familiar with: If you're not confident of your ability 
> to perform, find someone who can show you how to do it 
> and ask for help.
> 
> 1. The box has a CD drive, but the BIOS cannot be set to
>    boot from it.
>    - Know how to create a boot floppy using both RAWRITE
>      and dd
> 
> 2. The box has no CD drive, but the files from the CDROMs
>    have been copied to a volume on the hard disk.
>    - Know how to do an install from a local hard disk.
> 
> 3. The box has a CD drive, but it's a "vintage" model
>    (SoundBlasterPro) which is not recognized as an ATAPI drive. 
>    - Know how to install when the CDROM isn't recognized.
>    - Know how to use a driver disk to initialize hardware
>      which is not recognized by Red Hat out of the box.
> 
> 4. The box has no CD drive, but it does have a network
>    card.
>    - Know how to net install from a NFS volume with the
>      files.
>    - Know how to net install with FTP.
>    - Know how to net install from HTTP.
> 
> 5. The box has a Windows install, which must be preserved.
>    - Know how to create a dual boot setup.
>    - Understand the boot loaders:
>      - LILO
>      - GRUB
>     
> 6. The box needs a Red Hat Linux install, and the
>    configuration requires some of the volumes to be software RAID.
>    - Know how to use Disk Druid to setup a software RAID
>      system.
>    - Understand the different RAID levels:
>      - RAID 0 : Striping - performance only.
>      - RAID 1 : Mirroring - survives the loss of all but
>                 the last mirror.
>      - RAID 5 : Parity Striping - best disk space usage.
> 
> 7. You are in a maze of a thousand twisty Red Hat Installs,
>    all alike.
>    - Know how to automate the install using Kickstart.
>    - Know how to create a KickStart file.
>    - Know how to run an install using a kichstart disk.
> 
> See you all there.
> 
> -- 
> Innovation is a wildflower; you cannot choose where it will flower,
> you can only choose where it won't.
> 
> sholton@mindspring.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce


From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  9 15:55:26 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (John F Davis)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:55:26 -0400
Subject: [RHCE] Meeting 4 (LAB) tonight.
Message-ID: <OF40F3FC23.788D2BA7-ON87256BF1.0051D7CD@boulder.ibm.com>

7pm EST.  6pm Central.  No one leaves work in Durham at 5pm to attend
meetings in Raleigh at 6pm.  Its just not possible.
JD


Frank Pittenger <fpitteng@cisco.com>@trilug.org on 07/09/2002 10:49:37 AM

Please respond to rhce@trilug.org

Sent by:    rhce-admin@trilug.org


To:    rhce@trilug.org
cc:
Subject:    Re: [RHCE] Meeting 4 (LAB) tonight.




The schedule shows that tonight's meeting runs from 6-10:
Meeting 4 (Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm) Led by Steven
Holton
Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
- Kickstart
- Network installs
- Typical install "gotchas"

Steven's reminder below states that tonight's meeting starts at 7:00.

I don't want to be an hour late (or an hour early).  Is it 6:00 or 7:00?

Frank

On  9-Jul-02 at 06:35, sholton (sholton@mindspring.com) wrote:
> Just a reminder, the RHCE study meets tonight at 7:00
> This is a lab session covering installs, so if you have
> a sacrifical system you can spare, bring it along.
>
> Jason will make available a server, network, etc so all
> you really need is a spare CPU and hard disk.
>
> Here's some typical install situations you should be
> familiar with: If you're not confident of your ability
> to perform, find someone who can show you how to do it
> and ask for help.
>
> 1. The box has a CD drive, but the BIOS cannot be set to
>    boot from it.
>    - Know how to create a boot floppy using both RAWRITE
>      and dd
>
> 2. The box has no CD drive, but the files from the CDROMs
>    have been copied to a volume on the hard disk.
>    - Know how to do an install from a local hard disk.
>
> 3. The box has a CD drive, but it's a "vintage" model
>    (SoundBlasterPro) which is not recognized as an ATAPI drive.
>    - Know how to install when the CDROM isn't recognized.
>    - Know how to use a driver disk to initialize hardware
>      which is not recognized by Red Hat out of the box.
>
> 4. The box has no CD drive, but it does have a network
>    card.
>    - Know how to net install from a NFS volume with the
>      files.
>    - Know how to net install with FTP.
>    - Know how to net install from HTTP.
>
> 5. The box has a Windows install, which must be preserved.
>    - Know how to create a dual boot setup.
>    - Understand the boot loaders:
>      - LILO
>      - GRUB
>
> 6. The box needs a Red Hat Linux install, and the
>    configuration requires some of the volumes to be software RAID.
>    - Know how to use Disk Druid to setup a software RAID
>      system.
>    - Understand the different RAID levels:
>      - RAID 0 : Striping - performance only.
>      - RAID 1 : Mirroring - survives the loss of all but
>                 the last mirror.
>      - RAID 5 : Parity Striping - best disk space usage.
>
> 7. You are in a maze of a thousand twisty Red Hat Installs,
>    all alike.
>    - Know how to automate the install using Kickstart.
>    - Know how to create a KickStart file.
>    - Know how to run an install using a kichstart disk.
>
> See you all there.
>
> --
> Innovation is a wildflower; you cannot choose where it will flower,
> you can only choose where it won't.
>
> sholton@mindspring.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
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From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  9 11:54:45 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Sinner from the Prairy)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:54:45 +0000
Subject: [RHCE] Meeting 4 (LAB) tonight.
In-Reply-To: <ML-3.4.1026226177.6838.fpitteng@fpitteng-u5.cisco.com>
References: <ML-3.4.1026226177.6838.fpitteng@fpitteng-u5.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <200207091054.45442.sinner@escomposlinux.org>

Avui, Dimarts 09 Juliol 2002 14:49, no tenieu res mes que fer i me vareu 
enviar aquest e-mail
> The schedule shows that tonight's meeting runs from 6-10:
> Meeting 4 (Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm) Led by Steven
> Holton
> Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
> - Kickstart
> - Network installs
> - Typical install "gotchas"

> Steven's reminder below states that tonight's meeting starts at 7:00.

> I don't want to be an hour lat


As far as I know, all the meetings have been held at 7:00 pm. And Steve says 
that is at 7:00. I'll be there at 7:00


Salut,
Sinner
-- 
RedHat QA Test Engineer  --  Running RedHat 7.3 on i386smp
http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/

From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  9 16:03:31 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Shaw Family)
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:03:31 -0400
Subject: [RHCE] Meeting 4 (LAB) tonight.
References: <ML-3.4.1026226177.6838.fpitteng@fpitteng-u5.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <3D2AFB43.BC0C03DE@pobox.com>

Frank Pittenger wrote:
> 
> The schedule shows that tonight's meeting runs from 6-10:
> Meeting 4 (Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm) Led by Steven
> Holton
> Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
> - Kickstart
> - Network installs
> - Typical install "gotchas"
> 
> Steven's reminder below states that tonight's meeting starts at 7:00.
> 
> I don't want to be an hour late (or an hour early).  Is it 6:00 or 7:00?
> 
> Frank
> 
Not to speak for Steve but I think Steve was going on our "usual"
meeting time of 7pm.  IMO 7p seems to workout good as far as traffic
goes.  I vote for 7p.

Regards,

Mike

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From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  9 16:14:43 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Frank Pittenger)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:14:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [RHCE] Meeting 4 (LAB) tonight.
In-Reply-To: <3D2AFB43.BC0C03DE@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <ML-3.4.1026227683.5758.fpitteng@fpitteng-u5.cisco.com>

I'm not trying to be argumentative, and I certainly don't want to show up
an hour early if no one else is going to be there.  I put the "schedule"
into my calendar at work and at home and was relying on that.  The schedule
shows all regular meetings running from 7-9 and all lab meetings (4, 6 & 8)
running from 6-10:

Updated syllabus

Meeting 2 (Tuesday, June 11, 7-9pm) Led by Josep
"Sinner" Guallar-Esteve.
Hardware and Installation
- Partitioning (fdisk, utils to repartition existing)
- Boot loaders (lilo/grub and config files)
- Boot messages
- System startup scripts, /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
- System runlevels
- System config files (xinetd, rc scripts,
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts, shell config
scripts)...

Meeting 3 (Tuesday, June 25, 7-9pm) Led by Jim
Thompson
Configuration and Administration 
- User accounts - create/delete
- home directory issues
- linuxconf
- Redhat package manager
- Chkconfig
- Quotas
- File system commands (ls, cp, rm, mv, chown, chgrp,
ln....)

Meeting 4 (Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm) Led by Steven
Holton
Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
- Kickstart
- Network installs
- Typical install "gotchas"

Meeting 5 (Tuesday, July 23, 7-9pm) Led by Rock Roskam
Kernel Services and Configuration 
- Compiling and installing
- Kernel source
- Modules

Meeting 6 (Tuesday, Aug 6, 6-10pm) Led by Jason Tower
Standard Networking Services  [LAB 2]
- Apache, FTP, Samba, Mail, Print, DHCP, Xntp/rdate,
SSH, DNS...

Meeting 7 (Tuesday, Aug 20, 7-9pm) Led by Frank
Pittenger
X Window System 
- X-server/X-clients
- Configuration scripts
- startup
- Remote-X
- Troubleshooting and common problems

Meeting 8 (Tuesday, Sept 3, 6-10pm) Led by Jerry
Gordon
User and Host Security, Routers, Firewalls, and
Troubleshooting  [LAB3]
- PAM
- NIS
- Squid
- Syslog
- COPS
- Ipchains, iptables, ipaliasing, TCPWrappers
- NFS

Frank

On  9-Jul-02 at 11:05, Shaw Family (shaw89@pobox.com) wrote:
> Frank Pittenger wrote:
> > 
> > The schedule shows that tonight's meeting runs from 6-10:
> > Meeting 4 (Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm) Led by Steven
> > Holton
> > Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
> > - Kickstart
> > - Network installs
> > - Typical install "gotchas"
> > 
> > Steven's reminder below states that tonight's meeting starts at 7:00.
> > 
> > I don't want to be an hour late (or an hour early).  Is it 6:00 or 7:00?
> > 
> > Frank
> > 
> Not to speak for Steve but I think Steve was going on our "usual"
> meeting time of 7pm.  IMO 7p seems to workout good as far as traffic
> goes.  I vote for 7p.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> -- 
> shaw89@pobox.com
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From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  9 17:06:41 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (rhce@trilug.org)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:06:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [RHCE] Meeting 4 (LAB) tonight.
In-Reply-To: <ML-3.4.1026227683.5758.fpitteng@fpitteng-u5.cisco.com>
References: <3D2AFB43.BC0C03DE@pobox.com>
 <ML-3.4.1026227683.5758.fpitteng@fpitteng-u5.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <2679.63.243.43.142.1026230801.squirrel@tower.homelinux.org>

i'll be here all day, so if anyone wants to show up at 6 go ahead, i'll
make sure the door is open.

jason

>
> I'm not trying to be argumentative, and I certainly don't want to show
> up an hour early if no one else is going to be there.  I put the
> "schedule" into my calendar at work and at home and was relying on that.
>  The schedule shows all regular meetings running from 7-9 and all lab
> meetings (4, 6 & 8) running from 6-10:
>
> Updated syllabus
>
> Meeting 2 (Tuesday, June 11, 7-9pm) Led by Josep
> "Sinner" Guallar-Esteve.
> Hardware and Installation
> - Partitioning (fdisk, utils to repartition existing)
> - Boot loaders (lilo/grub and config files)
> - Boot messages
> - System startup scripts, /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
> - System runlevels
> - System config files (xinetd, rc scripts,
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts, shell config
> scripts)...
>
> Meeting 3 (Tuesday, June 25, 7-9pm) Led by Jim
> Thompson
> Configuration and Administration
> - User accounts - create/delete
> - home directory issues
> - linuxconf
> - Redhat package manager
> - Chkconfig
> - Quotas
> - File system commands (ls, cp, rm, mv, chown, chgrp,
> ln....)
>
> Meeting 4 (Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm) Led by Steven
> Holton
> Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
> - Kickstart
> - Network installs
> - Typical install "gotchas"
>
> Meeting 5 (Tuesday, July 23, 7-9pm) Led by Rock Roskam
> Kernel Services and Configuration
> - Compiling and installing
> - Kernel source
> - Modules
>
> Meeting 6 (Tuesday, Aug 6, 6-10pm) Led by Jason Tower
> Standard Networking Services  [LAB 2]
> - Apache, FTP, Samba, Mail, Print, DHCP, Xntp/rdate,
> SSH, DNS...
>
> Meeting 7 (Tuesday, Aug 20, 7-9pm) Led by Frank
> Pittenger
> X Window System
> - X-server/X-clients
> - Configuration scripts
> - startup
> - Remote-X
> - Troubleshooting and common problems
>
> Meeting 8 (Tuesday, Sept 3, 6-10pm) Led by Jerry
> Gordon
> User and Host Security, Routers, Firewalls, and
> Troubleshooting  [LAB3]
> - PAM
> - NIS
> - Squid
> - Syslog
> - COPS
> - Ipchains, iptables, ipaliasing, TCPWrappers
> - NFS
>
> Frank
>
> On  9-Jul-02 at 11:05, Shaw Family (shaw89@pobox.com) wrote:
>> Frank Pittenger wrote:
>> >
>> > The schedule shows that tonight's meeting runs from 6-10:
>> > Meeting 4 (Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm) Led by Steven
>> > Holton
>> > Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
>> > - Kickstart
>> > - Network installs
>> > - Typical install "gotchas"
>> >
>> > Steven's reminder below states that tonight's meeting starts at
>> 7:00.
>> >
>> > I don't want to be an hour late (or an hour early).  Is it 6:00 or
>> 7:00?
>> >
>> > Frank
>> >
>> Not to speak for Steve but I think Steve was going on our "usual"
>> meeting time of 7pm.  IMO 7p seems to workout good as far as traffic
>> goes.  I vote for 7p.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> --
>> shaw89@pobox.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
>> Archives for the RHCE list:
>>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
>
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From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul  9 17:52:54 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Jim Thompson)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:52:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [RHCE] Meeting 4 (LAB) tonight.
In-Reply-To: <3D2AFB43.BC0C03DE@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20020709165301.87534.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com>

I think the idea from the first draft of the schedule
was that the labs might take longer than a normal
session. Perhaps our experience has shown that 7-10 is
plenty of time and since everyone seems to agree on
7-10, shall we just make tonight's session start at
7:00?

Also, my apologies on being late with putting my html
from last session on line. That's now available from:

http://home.earthlink.net/~jthomp11/rhce2.tar.gz

Finally, I've changed the options for this list. Now,
anyone (even non-subscribed-non-members) can post to
the list. This should eliminate the problem of people
trying to post from an email address different from
the one they registered to the list and then getting a
"needs approval" message. If we start to get spam,
I'll put the "member's only" option back on.

Jim


--- Shaw Family <shaw89@pobox.com> wrote:
> Frank Pittenger wrote:
> > 
> > The schedule shows that tonight's meeting runs
> from 6-10:
> > Meeting 4 (Tuesday, July 9, 6-10pm) Led by Steven
> > Holton
> > Alternate Installation Methods [LAB 1]
> > - Kickstart
> > - Network installs
> > - Typical install "gotchas"
> > 
> > Steven's reminder below states that tonight's
> meeting starts at 7:00.
> > 
> > I don't want to be an hour late (or an hour
> early).  Is it 6:00 or 7:00?
> > 
> > Frank
> > 
> Not to speak for Steve but I think Steve was going
> on our "usual"
> meeting time of 7pm.  IMO 7p seems to workout good
> as far as traffic
> goes.  I vote for 7p.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> -- 
> shaw89@pobox.com
> _______________________________________________
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>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
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From rhce@trilug.org  Wed Jul 10 03:03:41 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Jim Thompson)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:03:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [RHCE] link to grub information
Message-ID: <20020710020341.43899.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com>

Here's the link to the page that details some grub
information:

http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/iboot2.html

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From rhce@trilug.org  Wed Jul 10 20:03:54 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Jerry)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:03:54 -0400
Subject: [RHCE] my GRUB story
Message-ID: <3D2C851A.CFA8A7C@med.unc.edu>

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Hello,
	I'm attaching a text file with my experiences with grub back in April.
I'm sorry I didn't remember more of this last night but you may still
find it helpful. Are attachments stripped by the listserv? I guess I'll
find out.

Jerry
-- 
Gerald W. Gordon, Ph.D.
Department of Cell and Developmental Biology
Taylor Hall, CB 7090
University of North Carolina
Chapel Hill, NC 27599

919/966-2941 (vox)
919/966-1856 (fax)
Gordon@med.unc.edu (email)
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Dual Boot Linux and Windows 2000 Pro with GRUB

The system is an 800 MHz Pentium (Dell 4100) with single 30 GB disk.

Install Windows 2000 Pro on the first partition. When I had w2k on the second partition and tried to reinstall it, the install program wanted to copy files to the first partition but that wasn't possible since I had made the first partition a Linux partition. So my rule is to have the first partition always be formatted for windows.

Install Linux. On this system I made the windows partition small enough (6GB) that I could make a separate /boot linux partion that was entirely below cylinder 1023. This is probably not necessary with the GRUB supplied with redhat linux 7.2 but I was having trouble and eliminated one possible problem. During the linux install make a boot floppy and don't write the boot loader to the master boot record but to the linux / partition. This again is conservative. The boot floppy boots linux in case something goes wrong. Leaving the windows boot record in the MBR alone allows booting windows if something goes wrong. (However, even if the MBR is trashed it can be restored with fdisk /MBR.) The short way to do it is to select GRUB as the bootloader and write it to the MBR, then modify the boot menu to also boot windows.

The Short Way
	Install windows on the first partition then linux. During the linux install select grub as the bootloader and write it to the MBR. Find grub.conf in /boot/grub. Add these three lines:
title Windows 2000
rootnoverify (hd0,0)  # both root and rootnoverify work
chainloader +1


The Longer Way
	Install windows on the first partition then linux. During the linux install make a boot floppy and write the bootloader to the linux / partition. Make a dual boot floppy to test the configuration before committing it to the MBR.
mke2fs /dev/fd0
mount /dev/fd0
mkdir /mnt/floppy/boot
mkdir /mnt/floppy/boot/grub
cp stage1 stage2 e2fs_stage1_5 /mnt/floppy/boot/grub
grub
grub> root (fd0)  # tell grub where to find stage*
grub> setup (fd0)  # write floppy boot record from stage*
# this gives error stage1_5 didn't embed, non-fatal
grub> quit
vi /mnt/floppy/boot/grub/grub.conf
default=0
timeout=30
title linux
root (hd0,1)  # linux partition with kernel, /boot in this case (hda2)
# now tell grub kernel filename with path relative to root command above
# also tell grub where the linux / partition is
kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.7-10 ro root=/dev/hda7
initrd /initrd-2.4.7-10.img  # location of initial ramdisk for special drivers
# initrd can be omitted in my install

title windows
rootnoverify (hd0,0)  # location of windows install/boot partition
chainloader +1   # load the windows boot loader from the windows partition
# +1 seems to mean 0+1 or offset 0 and read 1 sector (or maybe read through sector 1).

Comments
	kernel and initrd commands seem to have file system access even though the stage1_5 module failed to embed. I don't know if that means stage1_5 isn't needed for file system access (as opposed to block list access) or if stage1_5 is being picked up from the file each time. I could test this by deleting the stage1_5 file.
	kernel and initrd commands are reading the kernel and initrd files from the hard disk in the location specified by root= in the kernel command. The kernel and initrd commands can follow file links e.g. vmlinuz->vmlinuz-2.4.7-10.
	works fine without the initrd command.
	The windows boot loader is stored in the windows boot partition boot record. In a normal windows boot the boot loader is loaded by the code in the MBR.
	In this procedure the MBR still contains the windows code but that is about to change. If the dual boot floppy works the write grub to the MBR as follows.

Write Grub to the MBR
The stage* files and grub.conf are in /boot/grub as above. /boot is a separate partition.

grub
grub> root (hd0,1)  # location of stage* and grub.conf
# grub seems to look in /grub and /boot/grub for these files
grub> setup (hd0)  # put grub in the MBR (no partition specified)
grub> quit

Edit /boot/grub/grub.conf to look like the grub.conf above.

Make a Boot Floppy containing the Linux Kernel

Take the boot floppy made above (or a copy) and put the kernel and initrd files on it in /boot. Change the root command in grub.conf to read:
root (fd0)  # partition with the kernel
Everything else is the same as above.

Comments
The boot is still to a / directory on the hard disk. To make stand alone linux boot disk would require make the kernel and the / directory much smaller.

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From rhce@trilug.org  Thu Jul 11 19:13:04 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Shaw Family)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:13:04 -0400
Subject: [RHCE] LILO User's Guide Link
Message-ID: <3D2DCAB0.3783FD05@pobox.com>

Here is a link to a LILO User's Guide that might be helpful.  Especially
the "Troubleshooting" section!

http://www.yggdrasil.com/bible/lilo/user/user.html

Regards,

Mike

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From rhce@trilug.org  Mon Jul 15 14:18:21 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Shaw Family)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:18:21 -0400
Subject: [RHCE] Next meeting
References: <200206121214.21891.sinner@escomposlinux.org>
Message-ID: <3D32CB9D.C5803B7D@pobox.com>

Hi Everyone,

Looks like I'm going to miss the next meeting because of an out-of-town
interview.  Anyway were there topics that needed to be split off from
one of the next few meetings that I needed to tackle(I thought it had
been noted that meeting 6 and or 8 looked especially heavy)?  If so, let
me know what needs covered and I can start putting someting together for
either the end of one of the next meetings or if you want we can add on
a week.  I know I won't be able to take my RHCE until October because of
other commitments.

Regards,

Mike Shaw

-- 
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From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul 16 01:30:33 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Jason Tower)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:30:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [RHCE] lab help
Message-ID: <35751.127.0.0.1.1026779433.squirrel@tower.homelinux.org>

is anyone willing to lend a hand with the lab for:

Meeting 6 (Tuesday, Aug 6, 6-10pm) Led by Jason Tower
Standard Networking Services  [LAB 2]
- Apache, FTP, Samba, Mail, Print, DHCP, Xntp/rdate,
SSH, DNS...

that's a lot of goodies to cover, and i'm not an expert on all of them
(ok, ok, any of them).  maybe we could split it up, i'll take half and my
shadow can take half.  or we could break it into two weeks.  thoughts,
suggestions?

jason



From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul 16 14:13:04 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (John F Davis)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:13:04 -0400
Subject: [RHCE] lab help
Message-ID: <OFE974B765.DB123040-ON87256BF8.004859A7@boulder.ibm.com>

Hello

Considering that my wife said she would be REALLY upset if I went camping
August 8-11th, I now have plenty of time available that week.  Would you
like to work together on this lab?  I can bring a laptop and with your
server, we can do the dhcp, ntp, ssh, apache, dns.  I've setup each of
these
capabilities before.

JD

"Jason Tower" <jtower@nc.rr.com>@trilug.org on 07/15/2002 08:30:33 PM

Please respond to rhce@trilug.org

Sent by:    rhce-admin@trilug.org


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cc:
Subject:    [RHCE] lab help



is anyone willing to lend a hand with the lab for:

Meeting 6 (Tuesday, Aug 6, 6-10pm) Led by Jason Tower
Standard Networking Services  [LAB 2]
- Apache, FTP, Samba, Mail, Print, DHCP, Xntp/rdate,
SSH, DNS...

that's a lot of goodies to cover, and i'm not an expert on all of them
(ok, ok, any of them).  maybe we could split it up, i'll take half and my
shadow can take half.  or we could break it into two weeks.  thoughts,
suggestions?

jason


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From rhce@trilug.org  Tue Jul 16 17:02:55 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Jason Tower)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:02:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [RHCE] lab help
In-Reply-To: <OFE974B765.DB123040-ON87256BF8.004859A7@boulder.ibm.com>
References: <OFE974B765.DB123040-ON87256BF8.004859A7@boulder.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <29614.63.243.43.66.1026835375.squirrel@tower.homelinux.org>

very possibly, i'll let you know shortly.  thanks for volunteering!

>
> Hello
>
> Considering that my wife said she would be REALLY upset if I went
> camping August 8-11th, I now have plenty of time available that week.
> Would you like to work together on this lab?  I can bring a laptop and
> with your server, we can do the dhcp, ntp, ssh, apache, dns.  I've setup
> each of these
> capabilities before.
>
> JD
>
> "Jason Tower" <jtower@nc.rr.com>@trilug.org on 07/15/2002 08:30:33 PM
>
> Please respond to rhce@trilug.org
>
> Sent by:    rhce-admin@trilug.org
>
>
> To:    <rhce@trilug.org>
> cc:
> Subject:    [RHCE] lab help
>
>
>
> is anyone willing to lend a hand with the lab for:
>
> Meeting 6 (Tuesday, Aug 6, 6-10pm) Led by Jason Tower
> Standard Networking Services  [LAB 2]
> - Apache, FTP, Samba, Mail, Print, DHCP, Xntp/rdate,
> SSH, DNS...
>
> that's a lot of goodies to cover, and i'm not an expert on all of them
> (ok, ok, any of them).  maybe we could split it up, i'll take half and
> my shadow can take half.  or we could break it into two weeks.
> thoughts, suggestions?
>
> jason
>
>
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From rhce@trilug.org  Mon Jul 22 12:34:12 2002
From: rhce@trilug.org (Sinner from the Prairy)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:34:12 +0000
Subject: [RHCE] Next Meeting
Message-ID: <200207221134.12912.sinner@escomposlinux.org>

Fellow RHCE students,

just a friendly reminder for next RHCE class:

Meeting 5 (Tuesday, July 23, 7-9pm) Led by Rock Roskam
Kernel Services and Configuration 
- Compiling and installing
- Kernel source
- Modules

More at http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce/2002-June/000011.html


Salut,
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