From jeremyp at pobox.com  Mon Aug 11 20:30:28 2003
From: jeremyp at pobox.com (Jeremy Portzer)
Date: Mon Aug 11 15:30:29 2003
Subject: [RHCE] [Fwd: [RHBA-2003:183-01] Updated redhat-config-network
	package available]
Message-ID: <1060630217.16227.27.camel@jeremy.dtcc.cc.nc.us>

In case you're not subscribed to the redhat-watch-list, I thought you
might find this interesting.  Look at the vast number of bugs described
(some of which we discussed during the sessions that covered
networking).

--Jeremy

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From: bugzilla@redhat.com
To: redhat-watch-list@redhat.com
Subject: [RHBA-2003:183-01] Updated redhat-config-network package available
Date: 11 Aug 2003 11:04:00 -0400

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                   Red Hat Bug Fix Advisory

Synopsis:          Updated redhat-config-network package available
Advisory ID:       RHBA-2003:183-01
Issue date:        2003-08-11
Updated on:        2003-08-11
Product:           Red Hat Linux
Keywords:          redhat-config-network
Cross references:  
Obsoletes:         
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1. Topic:

An updated redhat-config-network package which fixes many bugs is now
available for Red Hat Linux 9.

2. Relevant releases/architectures:

Red Hat Linux 9 - i386, noarch

3. Problem description:

The network configuration tool for Red Hat Linux, redhat-config-network
supports the configuration of Ethernet, TokenRing, ADSL, ISDN,
and PPP network connections.

Users are advised to upgrade to this updated errata package, which
contains many bug fixes.

4. Solution:

Before applying this update, make sure all previously released errata
relevant to your system have been applied.

To update all RPMs for your particular architecture, run:

rpm -Fvh [filenames]

where [filenames] is a list of the RPMs you wish to upgrade.  Only those
RPMs which are currently installed will be updated.  Those RPMs which are
not installed but included in the list will not be updated.  Note that you
can also use wildcards (*.rpm) if your current directory *only* contains the
desired RPMs.

Please note that this update is also available via Red Hat Network.  Many
people find this an easier way to apply updates.  To use Red Hat Network,
launch the Red Hat Update Agent with the following command:

up2date

This will start an interactive process that will result in the appropriate
RPMs being upgraded on your system.

5. Bug IDs fixed (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla for more info):

73701 - neat should add optional string wep key
74705 - neat does not warn about makeing a main device to an alias one
77763 - Not updating wvdial provider peer or wvdial config
78043 - doesn't erase GATEWAY= in /etc/sysconfig/network
78741 - Command gives python errors
80194 - redhat-config-network-cmd --profile does nothing
80343 - NCDevWireless.py:32:load: NameError: global name 'ConfDevice' is not defined
80621 - Conf.py:473:__delitem__: KeyError
81911 - NCHardwareFactory.py:42:getHardwareClass:KeyError: Wireless
82241 - Can't activate ISDN connection with 'neat'.
82515 - hostname resolution fails
82805 - redhat-network-config doesnt allow stopping an attempt to activate interface
83640 - interface list in redhat-control-network not updated after adding new device
83718 - redhat-config-network crashes when saving changes
84605 - TB: ipcalc.py:41:prefix
84720 - redhat-config network is unable to handle two ppp accounts with the same user name
84956 - r-c-n "Delete" bad behavior part 1
84957 - r-c-n "Delete" bad behavior part 2
84958 - r-c-n "Deactivate" bad behavior after "Delete"
85011 - GUI creates route files that boot scripts can't see if interface nicknames used
85365 - About ISDN initialisation/ISDN drivers
85414 - Traceback on redhat-config-network-cmd --help
85630 - TB ConfPAP.py:108:getfields
85653 - Unaligned buttons
85703 - modem volume setting in r-c-network doesn't work
85920 - redhat-config-network-cmd does not work
86082 - TB cipeconfig.py:191:updateRemoteOptions
86283 - TB ConfPAP.py:95:getfields
86476 - redhat-network-config does not change dns search path when profile changed
86559 - make paths configurable
87741 - maindialog.py:198:__init__:NameError:global name 'timeout_add' is not defined
88147 - sre.py:137:search
88332 - NCDeviceFactory.py:43:getDeviceClass:KeyError
88357 - removing/changing the 127.0.0.1 alias in /etc/hosts shouldn't be allowed
88459 - redhat-config-network-gui:144:?:AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'program_init'
89515 - ConfPAP.py:91:getfields:IndexError
89915 - config-network won't allow activation without an edit
89916 - redhat-control-network:203:on_deactivateButton_clicked:AttributeError
90429 - redhat-config-network cannot configure wireless devices with fixed IP addresses
91068 - exception.py:280:handleException:TypeError:generic_error_dialog() got an unexpected keyword argument 'dialog_type'
98251 - maindialog.py:1292:on_hardwareAddButton_clicked:NameError:global name 'hardwareTypeDialog' is not defined

6. RPMs required:

Red Hat Linux 9:

SRPMS:
ftp://updates.redhat.com/9/en/os/SRPMS/redhat-config-network-1.2.15-1.src.rpm
ftp://updates.redhat.com/9/en/os/SRPMS/rhpl-0.93.4-1.src.rpm

i386:
ftp://updates.redhat.com/9/en/os/i386/rhpl-0.93.4-1.i386.rpm

noarch:
ftp://updates.redhat.com/9/en/os/noarch/redhat-config-network-1.2.15-1.noarch.rpm
ftp://updates.redhat.com/9/en/os/noarch/redhat-config-network-tui-1.2.15-1.noarch.rpm



7. Verification:

MD5 sum                          Package Name
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7976b6b39d43f9638df1c179246c257d 9/en/os/SRPMS/redhat-config-network-1.2.15-1.src.rpm
19146afbdcbd273e7ac13a10b41805e1 9/en/os/SRPMS/rhpl-0.93.4-1.src.rpm
1dc08f74670c7987a4f8234191535432 9/en/os/i386/rhpl-0.93.4-1.i386.rpm
290439271f98b4144ca36cc9ffdb48b3 9/en/os/noarch/redhat-config-network-1.2.15-1.noarch.rpm
a0650109ff18e0d5f6175504ccc199ac 9/en/os/noarch/redhat-config-network-tui-1.2.15-1.noarch.rpm


These packages are GPG signed by Red Hat for security.  Our key is
available from http://www.redhat.com/security/keys.html

You can verify each package with the following command:
    
    rpm --checksig -v <filename>

If you only wish to verify that each package has not been corrupted or
tampered with, examine only the md5sum with the following command:
    
    md5sum <filename>

8. Contact:

The Red Hat security contact is <secalert@redhat.com>.  More contact
details at http://www.redhat.com/solutions/security/news/contact.html

Copyright 2003 Red Hat, Inc.
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From mark at co.robeson.nc.us  Mon Aug 18 11:33:47 2003
From: mark at co.robeson.nc.us (Mark)
Date: Mon Aug 18 11:34:06 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Study Group
Message-ID: <000201c3659e$20ef07c0$427b32c0@TAXNOCB321>

I would be very interested in a study group, but since I live about
2-2.5 hours away from the triangle, it would be difficult for me to
attend during the week.  I would like to know what would be decided,
(maybe a weekend group) or at the very least I could attend the q&a via
irc.  Please let me know

 


Thanks, 

Mark Seelenbacher

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From jim at neuse.net  Mon Aug 18 16:35:39 2003
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Mon Aug 18 16:35:44 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Study Group
In-Reply-To: <000201c3659e$20ef07c0$427b32c0@TAXNOCB321>
Message-ID: <27E07D7E7F548C4A95EEAC2059246FCE050105@turtle.terrapinjunction.com>

i could possibly do a saturday mid morning.  i am at the junior level
despite screwing with it for many moons.  how many folks are kinda in the
same boat at the rh 033 level?

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark [mailto:mark@co.robeson.nc.us]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:34 AM
To: rhce@trilug.org
Subject: [RHCE] Study Group



I would be very interested in a study group, but since I live about 2-2.5
hours away from the triangle, it would be difficult for me to attend during
the week.  I would like to know what would be decided, (maybe a weekend
group) or at the very least I could attend the q&a via irc.  Please let me
know




Thanks,

Mark Seelenbacher

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From s_l at mindspring.com  Mon Aug 18 21:17:32 2003
From: s_l at mindspring.com (Scott Lundgren)
Date: Mon Aug 18 21:17:35 2003
Subject: [RHCE] RHCE syllabus, Jon's BIND/NIS/NFS/Automount notes missing
Message-ID: <NHBBLMNNKLKIFEPECGEAIELCCHAA.s_l@mindspring.com>

For archive sake, can Jon Carnes' presentation on Jon's
BIND/NIS/NFS/Automount from 04/30 be linked in to Lisa's Syllabus:
http://www.trilug.org/~lisa/syllabus.html ?

- SL


From jonc at nc.rr.com  Mon Aug 18 21:30:16 2003
From: jonc at nc.rr.com (Jon Carnes)
Date: Mon Aug 18 21:30:17 2003
Subject: [RHCE] RHCE syllabus, Jon's BIND/NIS/NFS/Automount notes missing
In-Reply-To: <NHBBLMNNKLKIFEPECGEAIELCCHAA.s_l@mindspring.com>
References: <NHBBLMNNKLKIFEPECGEAIELCCHAA.s_l@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <1061256612.2605.58.camel@Anncons4>

On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 21:17, Scott Lundgren wrote:
> For archive sake, can Jon Carnes' presentation on Jon's
> BIND/NIS/NFS/Automount from 04/30 be linked in to Lisa's Syllabus:
> http://www.trilug.org/~lisa/syllabus.html ?
> 
> - SL
> 

Here are my notes from the discussion:
 http://www.trilug.org/~jonc/nfs/nfs_nis_automount.txt

Jon


From lorenzin at 1000plus.com  Thu Aug 21 08:30:17 2003
From: lorenzin at 1000plus.com (Lisa Lorenzin)
Date: Thu Aug 21 08:30:20 2003
Subject: [RHCE] RHCE syllabus, Jon's BIND/NIS/NFS/Automount notes missing
In-Reply-To: <NHBBLMNNKLKIFEPECGEAIELCCHAA.s_l@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0308210829430.22620-100000@eeyore.1000plus.com>


> For archive sake, can Jon Carnes' presentation on Jon's
> BIND/NIS/NFS/Automount from 04/30 be linked in to Lisa's Syllabus:
> http://www.trilug.org/~lisa/syllabus.html ?

done.  i'll poke around and see if i have any meeting notes to upload,
too.  if anyone else has stuff to link in, please let me know!

						lisa

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From fpitteng at cisco.com  Fri Aug 22 12:52:45 2003
From: fpitteng at cisco.com (fpitteng@cisco.com)
Date: Fri Aug 22 11:53:07 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Re: Approved
Message-ID: <20030822155300.5FDFEA02AA@moya.trilug.org>

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From jeremyp at pobox.com  Fri Aug 22 17:56:56 2003
From: jeremyp at pobox.com (Jeremy Portzer)
Date: Fri Aug 22 17:56:58 2003
Subject: [RHCE] the RCHE test on 22 Aug
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0308221754170.5172-100000@moya.trilug.org>

Hello,

Greg W. and I were at the RHCE test today, as planned -- where were you, 
Sinner?  :-)

I am of course under NDA so I can't say much, but I think I passed.  I'll 
know soon.

Thank you very much to everyone who helped out with the study group.  It
sure was more fun doing the studying together!  I will be signing off now,
but am certainly willing to help with the administration of the list or
IRC channel as needed.

I hope someone steps up to start the organization of another round of 
meetings, as there seemed to be some interest.  Good luck!

--Jeremy

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From jonc at nc.rr.com  Fri Aug 22 20:37:50 2003
From: jonc at nc.rr.com (Jon Carnes)
Date: Fri Aug 22 20:37:52 2003
Subject: [RHCE] the RCHE test on 22 Aug
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0308221754170.5172-100000@moya.trilug.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0308221754170.5172-100000@moya.trilug.org>
Message-ID: <1061599058.2648.0.camel@Anncons4>

Good Luck Jeremy! I wish I could have been there with you guys.

Thanks for all your help - Jon Carnes

On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 17:56, Jeremy Portzer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Greg W. and I were at the RHCE test today, as planned -- where were you, 
> Sinner?  :-)
> 
> I am of course under NDA so I can't say much, but I think I passed.  I'll 
> know soon.
> 
> Thank you very much to everyone who helped out with the study group.  It
> sure was more fun doing the studying together!  I will be signing off now,
> but am certainly willing to help with the administration of the list or
> IRC channel as needed.
> 
> I hope someone steps up to start the organization of another round of 
> meetings, as there seemed to be some interest.  Good luck!
> 
> --Jeremy

From s_l at mindspring.com  Mon Aug 25 09:59:10 2003
From: s_l at mindspring.com (Scott Lundgren)
Date: Mon Aug 25 09:59:13 2003
Subject: [RHCE] rhce registration experiences
Message-ID: <NHBBLMNNKLKIFEPECGEAKEPICHAA.s_l@mindspring.com>


For those that have taken the test, how long did it take for your
registration confirmation email to come through?
I registered for the Sept 19 date on Aug 15th via the website. Thinking that
registration was like any other web-based application where you  plunk down
a credit card and recieve an email confirmation near-instantly, I called the
enrollment number on the 18th. The woman looked up my registration and said
it should be processed later that day. Now it's a week.
Did anyone else's registration take over a week to get a confirmation email?

- SL

From jeremyp at pobox.com  Mon Aug 25 13:16:23 2003
From: jeremyp at pobox.com (Jeremy Portzer)
Date: Mon Aug 25 13:16:25 2003
Subject: [RHCE] rhce registration experiences
In-Reply-To: <NHBBLMNNKLKIFEPECGEAKEPICHAA.s_l@mindspring.com>
References: <NHBBLMNNKLKIFEPECGEAKEPICHAA.s_l@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <1061831743.29771.22.camel@jeremy.dtcc.cc.nc.us>

Mine took a few days, I think it's handled manually.  I'll bet they do
it this way since most of the registrants are P.O.'s and other complex
things; I doubt they get *that* many credit card orders.  But it's worth
another call or email; they're usually prompt in returning e-mails.

--Jeremy

On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 09:59, Scott Lundgren wrote:
> For those that have taken the test, how long did it take for your
> registration confirmation email to come through?
> I registered for the Sept 19 date on Aug 15th via the website. Thinking that
> registration was like any other web-based application where you  plunk down
> a credit card and recieve an email confirmation near-instantly, I called the
> enrollment number on the 18th. The woman looked up my registration and said
> it should be processed later that day. Now it's a week.
> Did anyone else's registration take over a week to get a confirmation email?
> 
> - SL
> 
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From baldwinj at email.unc.edu  Wed Aug 27 10:00:20 2003
From: baldwinj at email.unc.edu (Jeff Baldwin)
Date: Wed Aug 27 10:02:55 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Starting again?
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.44+UNC.0308270958260.31340-100000@login7.isis.unc.edu>

Hello All --

I recently joined the trilug group & immediately seen a post about a RHCE
study group & after doing a little digging found a link to this mailing
list.

Anyhow.. looks like (from reading the archives) a few of you took the test
as recently as August 22nd... so my question is.. is this study group
'over'?  Is there another session started or one that will be starting up
soon?

How did you guys fair on the test?

Thanks

Jeff

+-----------------------------------------------+
|  Jeffery C Baldwin
|  Computer Consultant II
|
|  University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
|  213 Miller Hall
|  CB# 1105
|  Chapel Hill, NC 27599
|
|  Phone: (919) 843-2725
|  Fax: (919) 966-8928
|  E-Mail: jeff_baldwin at unc dot edu
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From jeremyp at pobox.com  Wed Aug 27 10:07:50 2003
From: jeremyp at pobox.com (Jeremy Portzer)
Date: Wed Aug 27 10:07:51 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Starting again?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.A41.4.44+UNC.0308270958260.31340-100000@login7.isis.unc.edu>
References: <Pine.A41.4.44+UNC.0308270958260.31340-100000@login7.isis.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <1061993239.1401.9.camel@jeremy.dtcc.cc.nc.us>

Hello,

I think it would be great if the group would start another series of
study sessions.  Someone needs to step up and begin organizing it! 
There is no one officially in charge.

Yes, two of us took the test on Aug 22 and I think there are a couple
more taking it in late September.

--Jeremy

On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 10:00, Jeff Baldwin wrote:
> Hello All --
> 
> I recently joined the trilug group & immediately seen a post about a RHCE
> study group & after doing a little digging found a link to this mailing
> list.
> 
> Anyhow.. looks like (from reading the archives) a few of you took the test
> as recently as August 22nd... so my question is.. is this study group
> 'over'?  Is there another session started or one that will be starting up
> soon?
> 
> How did you guys fair on the test?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jeff
> 
> +-----------------------------------------------+
> |  Jeffery C Baldwin
> |  Computer Consultant II
> |
> |  University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
> |  213 Miller Hall
> |  CB# 1105
> |  Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> |
> |  Phone: (919) 843-2725
> |  Fax: (919) 966-8928
> |  E-Mail: jeff_baldwin at unc dot edu
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> 
> 
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From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us  Wed Aug 27 11:09:09 2003
From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury)
Date: Wed Aug 27 11:09:15 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Recent musings
Message-ID: <200308271509.h7RF99KY003778@wolves.durham.nc.us>

I took the Exam on Aug 22 (with Jeremy) and "just missed" the E (I'm now
an RHCT!)  I'll be retaking the test for the Engineer designation
sometime soon, so I'll be interested in working with the RHCE group
again.  I don't have any contacts for a place to meet, but I'll be glad
to lead some of the sessions.

@#$@%*! Squid!


-- 
Gregory G. "Wolfe" Woodbury   `-_-'         Owner/Admin: wolves.durham.nc.us
ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us      U
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From baldwinj at email.unc.edu  Wed Aug 27 11:39:57 2003
From: baldwinj at email.unc.edu (Jeff Baldwin)
Date: Wed Aug 27 11:40:11 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Recent musings
In-Reply-To: <200308271509.h7RF99KY003778@wolves.durham.nc.us>
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.44+UNC.0308271138410.31340-100000@login7.isis.unc.edu>

I could definitly provide us with a place to study here at UNC.  I'd love
to get another group going.  And a good foundation has definitly been set
by the previous group, using their notes and such from
http://www.trilug.org/~lisa/syllabus.html I'm sure we could have on heck
of a class.

Jeff

+-----------------------------------------------+
|  Jeffery C Baldwin
|  Computer Consultant II
|
|  University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
|  213 Miller Hall
|  CB# 1105
|  Chapel Hill, NC 27599
|
|  Phone: (919) 843-2725
|  Fax: (919) 966-8928
|  E-Mail: jeff_baldwin at unc dot edu
+-----------------------------------------------+


On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Gregory Woodbury wrote:

> I took the Exam on Aug 22 (with Jeremy) and "just missed" the E (I'm now
> an RHCT!)  I'll be retaking the test for the Engineer designation
> sometime soon, so I'll be interested in working with the RHCE group
> again.  I don't have any contacts for a place to meet, but I'll be glad
> to lead some of the sessions.
>
> @#$@%*! Squid!
>
>
> --
> Gregory G. "Wolfe" Woodbury   `-_-'         Owner/Admin: wolves.durham.nc.us
> ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us      U
> "The Line Eater is a               Hug your wolf.
>  Boojum Snark"
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
>

From liyunyu at med.unc.edu  Wed Aug 27 10:34:32 2003
From: liyunyu at med.unc.edu (Liyun Yu)
Date: Wed Aug 27 13:06:44 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Starting again?
References: <Pine.A41.4.44+UNC.0308270958260.31340-100000@login7.isis.unc.edu>
	<1061993239.1401.9.camel@jeremy.dtcc.cc.nc.us>
Message-ID: <3F4CC178.6050504@med.unc.edu>

I would second Jeremy's suggestion.  I am new to this list too.
Lisa has a wonderful web site collected a lot of very useful notes there.
But I did not know how they orgaqnized the previous study sessions
where they were and when would be good for everyone.

--Liyun


Jeremy Portzer wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I think it would be great if the group would start another series of
>study sessions.  Someone needs to step up and begin organizing it! 
>There is no one officially in charge.
>
>Yes, two of us took the test on Aug 22 and I think there are a couple
>more taking it in late September.
>
>--Jeremy
>
>On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 10:00, Jeff Baldwin wrote:
>  
>
>>Hello All --
>>
>>I recently joined the trilug group & immediately seen a post about a RHCE
>>study group & after doing a little digging found a link to this mailing
>>list.
>>
>>Anyhow.. looks like (from reading the archives) a few of you took the test
>>as recently as August 22nd... so my question is.. is this study group
>>'over'?  Is there another session started or one that will be starting up
>>soon?
>>
>>How did you guys fair on the test?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>+-----------------------------------------------+
>>|  Jeffery C Baldwin
>>|  Computer Consultant II
>>|
>>|  University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
>>|  213 Miller Hall
>>|  CB# 1105
>>|  Chapel Hill, NC 27599
>>|
>>|  Phone: (919) 843-2725
>>|  Fax: (919) 966-8928
>>|  E-Mail: jeff_baldwin at unc dot edu
>>+-----------------------------------------------+
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>>   http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
>>Archives for the RHCE list:
>>   http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
>>    
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>>   http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
>>Archives for the RHCE list:
>>   http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
>>    
>>

-- 
====++===+=+++====+++++==========+++===+===++========
Liyun Yu, Ph. D./System Administrator/Dept of Radiation Oncology
UNC School of Medicine /101 Manning Drive/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7512
Office: (919) 966-7704 Ext 1 / FAX: (919) 966-7681



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From jim at neuse.net  Wed Aug 27 15:50:05 2003
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Wed Aug 27 15:50:12 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Starting again?
In-Reply-To: <3F4CC178.6050504@med.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <27E07D7E7F548C4A95EEAC2059246FCE036363@turtle.terrapinjunction.com>

i offered my place over near ncsu for holding the meetings yet would need to
start at the beginner level.  i got a quote of $4,000 or so from rh for
their instructor-led training and am contemplating the investment in
addition to the group effort.

i started w/ rh4.2 and have used *nix for 20+ years yet still consider
myself a beginner and want to start with the basics.

-----Original Message-----
From: Liyun Yu [mailto:liyunyu@med.unc.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:35 AM
To: Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
Subject: Re: [RHCE] Starting again?


I would second Jeremy's suggestion.  I am new to this list too.
Lisa has a wonderful web site collected a lot of very useful notes there.
But I did not know how they orgaqnized the previous study sessions
where they were and when would be good for everyone.

--Liyun


Jeremy Portzer wrote:


Hello,



I think it would be great if the group would start another series of

study sessions.  Someone needs to step up and begin organizing it!

There is no one officially in charge.



Yes, two of us took the test on Aug 22 and I think there are a couple

more taking it in late September.



--Jeremy



On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 10:00, Jeff Baldwin wrote:



Hello All --



I recently joined the trilug group & immediately seen a post about a RHCE

study group & after doing a little digging found a link to this mailing

list.



Anyhow.. looks like (from reading the archives) a few of you took the test

as recently as August 22nd... so my question is.. is this study group

'over'?  Is there another session started or one that will be starting up

soon?



How did you guys fair on the test?



Thanks



Jeff



+-----------------------------------------------+

|  Jeffery C Baldwin

|  Computer Consultant II

|

|  University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill

|  213 Miller Hall

|  CB# 1105

|  Chapel Hill, NC 27599

|

|  Phone: (919) 843-2725

|  Fax: (919) 966-8928

|  E-Mail: jeff_baldwin at unc dot edu

+-----------------------------------------------+





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--

====++===+=+++====+++++==========+++===+===++========

Liyun Yu, Ph. D./System Administrator/Dept of Radiation Oncology

UNC School of Medicine /101 Manning Drive/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7512

Office: (919) 966-7704 Ext 1 / FAX: (919) 966-7681




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From jim at neuse.net  Wed Aug 27 15:52:55 2003
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Wed Aug 27 15:52:59 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Recent musings
In-Reply-To: <Pine.A41.4.44+UNC.0308271138410.31340-100000@login7.isis.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <27E07D7E7F548C4A95EEAC2059246FCE05014F@turtle.terrapinjunction.com>

chapel thrill fine by me as well

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Baldwin [mailto:baldwinj@email.unc.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:40 AM
> To: Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> Subject: Re: [RHCE] Recent musings
> 
> 
> I could definitly provide us with a place to study here at 
> UNC.  I'd love
> to get another group going.  And a good foundation has 
> definitly been set
> by the previous group, using their notes and such from
> http://www.trilug.org/~lisa/syllabus.html I'm sure we could 
> have on heck
> of a class.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> +-----------------------------------------------+
> |  Jeffery C Baldwin
> |  Computer Consultant II
> |
> |  University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
> |  213 Miller Hall
> |  CB# 1105
> |  Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> |
> |  Phone: (919) 843-2725
> |  Fax: (919) 966-8928
> |  E-Mail: jeff_baldwin at unc dot edu
> +-----------------------------------------------+
> 
> 
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Gregory Woodbury wrote:
> 
> > I took the Exam on Aug 22 (with Jeremy) and "just missed" 
> the E (I'm now
> > an RHCT!)  I'll be retaking the test for the Engineer designation
> > sometime soon, so I'll be interested in working with the RHCE group
> > again.  I don't have any contacts for a place to meet, but 
> I'll be glad
> > to lead some of the sessions.
> >
> > @#$@%*! Squid!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gregory G. "Wolfe" Woodbury   `-_-'         Owner/Admin: 
> wolves.durham.nc.us
> > ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us      U
> > "The Line Eater is a               Hug your wolf.
> >  Boojum Snark"
> > _______________________________________________
> > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
> >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> > Archives for the RHCE list:
> >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> 
> 

From jim at neuse.net  Wed Aug 27 15:54:37 2003
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Wed Aug 27 15:54:45 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Recent musings
In-Reply-To: <200308271509.h7RF99KY003778@wolves.durham.nc.us>
Message-ID: <27E07D7E7F548C4A95EEAC2059246FCE050150@turtle.terrapinjunction.com>

congrats on the first step!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory Woodbury [mailto:ggw@wolves.durham.nc.us]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:09 AM
> To: TriLUG RHCE Course
> Subject: [RHCE] Recent musings
> 
> 
> I took the Exam on Aug 22 (with Jeremy) and "just missed" the 
> E (I'm now
> an RHCT!)  I'll be retaking the test for the Engineer designation
> sometime soon, so I'll be interested in working with the RHCE group
> again.  I don't have any contacts for a place to meet, but 
> I'll be glad
> to lead some of the sessions.
> 
> @#$@%*! Squid!
> 
> 
> -- 
> Gregory G. "Wolfe" Woodbury   `-_-'         Owner/Admin: 
> wolves.durham.nc.us
> ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us      U
> "The Line Eater is a               Hug your wolf.
>  Boojum Snark"
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> 
> 

From jonc at nc.rr.com  Wed Aug 27 16:29:39 2003
From: jonc at nc.rr.com (Jon Carnes)
Date: Wed Aug 27 16:29:40 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Starting again?
In-Reply-To: <27E07D7E7F548C4A95EEAC2059246FCE036363@turtle.terrapinjunction.com>
References: <27E07D7E7F548C4A95EEAC2059246FCE036363@turtle.terrapinjunction.com>
Message-ID: <1062016171.2660.24.camel@Anncons4>

I recommend that you guys gather some folks together and once you get
around 12 folks committed, setup meetings on a weekly basis.

It seems like the folks who do the most organizing are the ones that
learn the most (and consequently pass the RHCE).

I'm happy to help out, but really you need to assign a new discussion
leader for each meeting.  That discussion leader preps the outline for
the evening and leads the discussion. It's nice if he actually reads the
docs for the topics, but really the important thing is to just have
someone lead the discussion and walk folks through the topics of the
evening.

Some of the folks there will have read the docs (I used the Red Hat
manuals as my main source - since those are they guys who also wrote the
RHCE test!).  Some of the folks there will bring their own expertise to
the meeting.  All in all it's a lot of fun.

I had a great time with the last group and I'm sure I would have passed
the RHCE - had I chosen to take it.

Jon

On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 15:50, Jim Ray wrote:
> i offered my place over near ncsu for holding the meetings yet would
> need to start at the beginner level.  i got a quote of $4,000 or so
> from rh for their instructor-led training and am contemplating the
> investment in addition to the group effort.
>  
> i started w/ rh4.2 and have used *nix for 20+ years yet still consider
> myself a beginner and want to start with the basics.
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Liyun Yu [mailto:liyunyu@med.unc.edu]
>         Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:35 AM
>         To: Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
>         Subject: Re: [RHCE] Starting again?
>         
>         
>         I would second Jeremy's suggestion.  I am new to this list
>         too. 
>         Lisa has a wonderful web site collected a lot of very useful
>         notes there. 
>         But I did not know how they orgaqnized the previous study
>         sessions
>         where they were and when would be good for everyone. 
>         
>         --Liyun
>         
>         
>         Jeremy Portzer wrote:
>         > Hello,
>         > 
>         > I think it would be great if the group would start another series of
>         > study sessions.  Someone needs to step up and begin organizing it! 
>         > There is no one officially in charge.
>         > 
>         > Yes, two of us took the test on Aug 22 and I think there are a couple
>         > more taking it in late September.
>         > 
>         > --Jeremy
>         > 
>         > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 10:00, Jeff Baldwin wrote:
>         >   
>         > > Hello All --
>         > > 
>         > > I recently joined the trilug group & immediately seen a post about a RHCE
>         > > study group & after doing a little digging found a link to this mailing
>         > > list.
>         > > 
>         > > Anyhow.. looks like (from reading the archives) a few of you took the test
>         > > as recently as August 22nd... so my question is.. is this study group
>         > > 'over'?  Is there another session started or one that will be starting up
>         > > soon?
>         > > 
>         > > How did you guys fair on the test?
>         > > 
>         > > Thanks
>         > > 
>         > > Jeff
>         > > 
>         > > +-----------------------------------------------+
>         > > |  Jeffery C Baldwin
>         > > |  Computer Consultant II
>         > > |
>         > > |  University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
>         > > |  213 Miller Hall
>         > > |  CB# 1105
>         > > |  Chapel Hill, NC 27599
>         > > |
>         > > |  Phone: (919) 843-2725
>         > > |  Fax: (919) 966-8928
>         > > |  E-Mail: jeff_baldwin at unc dot edu
>         > > +-----------------------------------------------+
>         > > 
>         > > 
>         > > _______________________________________________
>         > > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>         > >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
>         > > Archives for the RHCE list:
>         > >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
>         > >     
>         > > 
>         > > __________________________________________________________
>         > > _______________________________________________
>         > > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>         > >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
>         > > Archives for the RHCE list:
>         > >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
>         > >     
>         
>         
>         -- 
>         ====++===+=+++====+++++==========+++===+===++========
>         Liyun Yu, Ph. D./System Administrator/Dept of Radiation Oncology
>         UNC School of Medicine /101 Manning Drive/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7512
>         Office: (919) 966-7704 Ext 1 / FAX: (919) 966-7681
>         
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce

From jim at neuse.net  Wed Aug 27 17:08:18 2003
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Wed Aug 27 17:08:26 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Starting again?
In-Reply-To: <1062016171.2660.24.camel@Anncons4>
Message-ID: <27E07D7E7F548C4A95EEAC2059246FCE050153@turtle.terrapinjunction.com>

jon, you could prolly write the rhce exam :-)

so, i reckon time and place are key components.  i can commit to 1 day/week.
i wouldn't be able to *comfortably* seat 12 folks in my house yet am willing
to try.  on second thought, i believe my living room would hold 12 if i made
a couple of rows of chairs from kitchen and card table.  32" tv available
for presentation from computer.  not high res yet functional.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Carnes [mailto:jonc@nc.rr.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:30 PM
> To: Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> Subject: RE: [RHCE] Starting again?
>
>
> I recommend that you guys gather some folks together and once you get
> around 12 folks committed, setup meetings on a weekly basis.
>
> It seems like the folks who do the most organizing are the ones that
> learn the most (and consequently pass the RHCE).
>
> I'm happy to help out, but really you need to assign a new discussion
> leader for each meeting.  That discussion leader preps the outline for
> the evening and leads the discussion. It's nice if he
> actually reads the
> docs for the topics, but really the important thing is to just have
> someone lead the discussion and walk folks through the topics of the
> evening.
>
> Some of the folks there will have read the docs (I used the Red Hat
> manuals as my main source - since those are they guys who
> also wrote the
> RHCE test!).  Some of the folks there will bring their own
> expertise to
> the meeting.  All in all it's a lot of fun.
>
> I had a great time with the last group and I'm sure I would
> have passed
> the RHCE - had I chosen to take it.
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 15:50, Jim Ray wrote:
> > i offered my place over near ncsu for holding the meetings yet would
> > need to start at the beginner level.  i got a quote of $4,000 or so
> > from rh for their instructor-led training and am contemplating the
> > investment in addition to the group effort.
> >
> > i started w/ rh4.2 and have used *nix for 20+ years yet
> still consider
> > myself a beginner and want to start with the basics.
> >         -----Original Message-----
> >         From: Liyun Yu [mailto:liyunyu@med.unc.edu]
> >         Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:35 AM
> >         To: Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> >         Subject: Re: [RHCE] Starting again?
> >
> >
> >         I would second Jeremy's suggestion.  I am new to this list
> >         too.
> >         Lisa has a wonderful web site collected a lot of very useful
> >         notes there.
> >         But I did not know how they orgaqnized the previous study
> >         sessions
> >         where they were and when would be good for everyone.
> >
> >         --Liyun
> >
> >
> >         Jeremy Portzer wrote:
> >         > Hello,
> >         >
> >         > I think it would be great if the group would
> start another series of
> >         > study sessions.  Someone needs to step up and
> begin organizing it!
> >         > There is no one officially in charge.
> >         >
> >         > Yes, two of us took the test on Aug 22 and I
> think there are a couple
> >         > more taking it in late September.
> >         >
> >         > --Jeremy
> >         >
> >         > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 10:00, Jeff Baldwin wrote:
> >         >
> >         > > Hello All --
> >         > >
> >         > > I recently joined the trilug group &
> immediately seen a post about a RHCE
> >         > > study group & after doing a little digging
> found a link to this mailing
> >         > > list.
> >         > >
> >         > > Anyhow.. looks like (from reading the archives)
> a few of you took the test
> >         > > as recently as August 22nd... so my question
> is.. is this study group
> >         > > 'over'?  Is there another session started or
> one that will be starting up
> >         > > soon?
> >         > >
> >         > > How did you guys fair on the test?
> >         > >
> >         > > Thanks
> >         > >
> >         > > Jeff
> >         > >
> >         > > +-----------------------------------------------+
> >         > > |  Jeffery C Baldwin
> >         > > |  Computer Consultant II
> >         > > |
> >         > > |  University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
> >         > > |  213 Miller Hall
> >         > > |  CB# 1105
> >         > > |  Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> >         > > |
> >         > > |  Phone: (919) 843-2725
> >         > > |  Fax: (919) 966-8928
> >         > > |  E-Mail: jeff_baldwin at unc dot edu
> >         > > +-----------------------------------------------+
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > > _______________________________________________
> >         > > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
> >         > >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> >         > > Archives for the RHCE list:
> >         > >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> __________________________________________________________
> >         > > _______________________________________________
> >         > > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
> >         > >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> >         > > Archives for the RHCE list:
> >         > >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> >         > >
> >
> >
> >         --
> >         ====++===+=+++====+++++==========+++===+===++========
> >         Liyun Yu, Ph. D./System Administrator/Dept of
> Radiation Oncology
> >         UNC School of Medicine /101 Manning Drive/Chapel
> Hill, NC 27599-7512
> >         Office: (919) 966-7704 Ext 1 / FAX: (919) 966-7681
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
> >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> > Archives for the RHCE list:
> >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
>
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
>
>

From s_l at mindspring.com  Wed Aug 27 17:20:02 2003
From: s_l at mindspring.com (Scott Lundgren)
Date: Wed Aug 27 17:21:22 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Starting again?
In-Reply-To: <1062016171.2660.24.camel@Anncons4>
Message-ID: <NHBBLMNNKLKIFEPECGEAMECBCIAA.s_l@mindspring.com>

+1

>It seems like the folks who do the most organizing are the ones that
>learn the most (and consequently pass the RHCE).

This is one aspect of the group I really liked, that I couldn't slouch
because at somepoint I had to learn a topic enough to teach (cough, cough)
it.

- SL

From kevin at flanagannc.net  Wed Aug 27 20:37:54 2003
From: kevin at flanagannc.net (Kevin Flanagan)
Date: Wed Aug 27 20:37:55 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Recent musings
In-Reply-To: <Pine.A41.4.44+UNC.0308271138410.31340-100000@login7.isis.unc.edu>
References: <Pine.A41.4.44+UNC.0308271138410.31340-100000@login7.isis.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <1062031022.986.2.camel@saturn>

On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:39, Jeff Baldwin wrote:
I'm interested in the group, but it'll be a late start, work is paying
for the 4 day class/1 day test combo next month.

Does anyone who has done the training and or test, and missed, already
want to get together a couple of times to cram?

Going to Chapel Hill is too much for me, NCSU area, or RTP would be
better.




Kevin




> I could definitly provide us with a place to study here at UNC.  I'd love
> to get another group going.  And a good foundation has definitly been set
> by the previous group, using their notes and such from
> http://www.trilug.org/~lisa/syllabus.html I'm sure we could have on heck
> of a class.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> +-----------------------------------------------+
> |  Jeffery C Baldwin
> |  Computer Consultant II
> |
> |  University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
> |  213 Miller Hall
> |  CB# 1105
> |  Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> |
> |  Phone: (919) 843-2725
> |  Fax: (919) 966-8928
> |  E-Mail: jeff_baldwin at unc dot edu
> +-----------------------------------------------+
> 
> 
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Gregory Woodbury wrote:
> 
> > I took the Exam on Aug 22 (with Jeremy) and "just missed" the E (I'm now
> > an RHCT!)  I'll be retaking the test for the Engineer designation
> > sometime soon, so I'll be interested in working with the RHCE group
> > again.  I don't have any contacts for a place to meet, but I'll be glad
> > to lead some of the sessions.
> >
> > @#$@%*! Squid!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gregory G. "Wolfe" Woodbury   `-_-'         Owner/Admin: wolves.durham.nc.us
> > ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us      U
> > "The Line Eater is a               Hug your wolf.
> >  Boojum Snark"
> > _______________________________________________
> > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
> >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> > Archives for the RHCE list:
> >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
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>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
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From baldwinj at email.unc.edu  Thu Aug 28 10:38:54 2003
From: baldwinj at email.unc.edu (Jeff Baldwin)
Date: Thu Aug 28 10:39:53 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Re: [TriLUG] RHCE study group reminder
In-Reply-To: <1062038187.1090.21.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.44+UNC.0308272347470.12906-100000@login9.isis.unc.edu>

Thanks Jeremy.

All -

I'd like to take the reigns on getting a group going here at UNC, we would
have access to a nice conference room, could sit ~30, projector, machines
running linux that we could use for instruction purposes (PC, Laptop, Dell
Poweredge - Dual Processor - RAID5), area is located right on Franklin St.
1/2 block from parking deck, so parking shouldn't be a problem.

It's been suggested that we gather ~12 people before we start the class,
so I'm going to go with that number.

I think that by gathering input from those that participated in the first,
along with the detailed sylabus that they've made available online, we
could have one heck of a class.

Ok, I'll stop spamming the trilug list with stuff that belongs over on
RHCE, but please, if you're interested, join the RHCE list that Jeremy
mentioned in his e-mail & feel free to e-mail me directly with regards to
a UNC class.

Also... Jim Ray (jim@neuse.net) has offered his place (located close to
NCSU) as a host for a RHCE class also.  Perhaps we could get two classes
going?

Feel free to contact me, lets get this going...

Ok.. I'm going back to the RHCE list now ;-)

Thanks

Jeff

+-----------------------------------------------+
|  Jeffery C Baldwin
|  Computer Consultant II
|
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On 27 Aug 2003, Jeremy Portzer wrote:

> Good evening folks,
>
> Just a reminder, if you are interested in the RHCE study group, please
> join the rhce@trilug.org mailing list.  Discussion is starting there now
> on location, times, etc. for the next series of meetings.
>
> The URL for the list is:
> 	https://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce/
> The archives are:
> 	http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce/
> The syllabus from last year's class is here:
> 	http://www.trilug.org/~lisa/syllabus.html
>
> Please direct replies to the rhce@trilug.org list. Thank you!
>
> --Jeremy
> --
> /---------------------------------------------------------------------\
> | Jeremy Portzer       jeremyp@pobox.com       trilug.org/~jeremy     |
> | GPG Fingerprint: 712D 77C7 AB2D 2130 989F  E135 6F9F F7BC CC1A 7B92 |
> \---------------------------------------------------------------------/
>



From jtate at dragonstrider.com  Thu Aug 28 11:33:13 2003
From: jtate at dragonstrider.com (Joseph Tate)
Date: Thu Aug 28 11:33:15 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Recent musings
In-Reply-To: <1062031022.986.2.camel@saturn>
References: <Pine.A41.4.44+UNC.0308271138410.31340-100000@login7.isis.unc.edu>
	<1062031022.986.2.camel@saturn>
Message-ID: <3F4E20B9.1090404@dragonstrider.com>

Kevin Flanagan wrote:

>On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:39, Jeff Baldwin wrote:
>I'm interested in the group, but it'll be a late start, work is paying
>for the 4 day class/1 day test combo next month.
>
>Does anyone who has done the training and or test, and missed, already
>want to get together a couple of times to cram?
>
>Going to Chapel Hill is too much for me, NCSU area, or RTP would be
>better.
>  
>
Yeah, I'm in.  I'll be cramming at my place on Monday (Labor Day).  
Bring a machine and you can cram too.  I'm in Durham right outside RTP.  
E-mail me privately if you're interested, and I'll send directions.

Joseph

P.S. My wife's offered treats to anyone who comes to help me study.

From Matthew.Frye at rexhealth.com  Thu Aug 28 12:44:03 2003
From: Matthew.Frye at rexhealth.com (Frye, Matthew)
Date: Thu Aug 28 12:45:05 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
Message-ID: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E023C88F7@tinman3.rexhealth.com>

Is there a study group in Raleigh proper?  I'm 15 minutes from NCSU (from
work).  


Matt Frye
(919) 784-3791

From jim at neuse.net  Thu Aug 28 13:48:47 2003
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Thu Aug 28 13:48:50 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
In-Reply-To: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E023C88F7@tinman3.rexhealth.com>
Message-ID: <001401c36d8c$a217bea0$0b01a8c0@boxer>

I would like to start one.  Whadaya say we see which of the two proposed
study groups reach the magic number of 12 first and go with it?  Ah, classic
UNC vs NCSU.  I am 1 block from NCSU campus off Hillsborough St and have
meeting approval from my boss (wife) for the living room once a week or
whatever the group decides.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org 
> [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org] On Behalf Of Frye, Matthew
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:44 PM
> To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> 
> 
> Is there a study group in Raleigh proper?  I'm 15 minutes 
> from NCSU (from work).  
> 
> 
> Matt Frye
> (919) 784-3791
> 
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> 

From painter at kiasoft.com  Thu Aug 28 14:01:38 2003
From: painter at kiasoft.com (Jeffery Painter)
Date: Thu Aug 28 14:11:56 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
In-Reply-To: <001401c36d8c$a217bea0$0b01a8c0@boxer>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0308281401070.4136-100000@localhost.localdomain>


make mine another vote for Raleigh

Jeff Painter


On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Jim Ray wrote:

> I would like to start one.  Whadaya say we see which of the two proposed
> study groups reach the magic number of 12 first and go with it?  Ah, classic
> UNC vs NCSU.  I am 1 block from NCSU campus off Hillsborough St and have
> meeting approval from my boss (wife) for the living room once a week or
> whatever the group decides.
> 

From Matthew.Frye at rexhealth.com  Thu Aug 28 14:21:25 2003
From: Matthew.Frye at rexhealth.com (Frye, Matthew)
Date: Thu Aug 28 14:21:49 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
Message-ID: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E023C88F9@tinman3.rexhealth.com>

Sounds good.  Count us three then for Raleigh, and I'm standing by on CH if
necessary.  

> ----------
> From: 	Jim Ray[SMTP:jim@neuse.net]
> Reply To: 	jim@neuse.net;Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> Sent: 	Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:48 PM
> To: 	'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> Subject: 	RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> 
> I would like to start one.  Whadaya say we see which of the two proposed
> study groups reach the magic number of 12 first and go with it?  Ah,
> classic
> UNC vs NCSU.  I am 1 block from NCSU campus off Hillsborough St and have
> meeting approval from my boss (wife) for the living room once a week or
> whatever the group decides.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org 
> > [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org] On Behalf Of Frye, Matthew
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:44 PM
> > To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> > Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> > 
> > 
> > Is there a study group in Raleigh proper?  I'm 15 minutes 
> > from NCSU (from work).  
> > 
> > 
> > Matt Frye
> > (919) 784-3791
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
> >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> > Archives for the RHCE list:
> >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> 
From evaporation at mindspring.com  Thu Aug 28 17:36:12 2003
From: evaporation at mindspring.com (Jeremy Mullis)
Date: Thu Aug 28 14:32:05 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
In-Reply-To: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E023C88F9@tinman3.rexhealth.com>
Message-ID: <IMEEIECINCIJJPAGACNEEEMGCIAA.evaporation@mindspring.com>

I am in Raleigh and count me in.

Jeremy

-----Original Message-----
From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org]On Behalf
Of Frye, Matthew
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:21 AM
To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
Subject: RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group


Sounds good.  Count us three then for Raleigh, and I'm standing by on CH if
necessary.  

> ----------
> From: 	Jim Ray[SMTP:jim@neuse.net]
> Reply To: 	jim@neuse.net;Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> Sent: 	Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:48 PM
> To: 	'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> Subject: 	RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> 
> I would like to start one.  Whadaya say we see which of the two proposed
> study groups reach the magic number of 12 first and go with it?  Ah,
> classic
> UNC vs NCSU.  I am 1 block from NCSU campus off Hillsborough St and have
> meeting approval from my boss (wife) for the living room once a week or
> whatever the group decides.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org 
> > [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org] On Behalf Of Frye, Matthew
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:44 PM
> > To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> > Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> > 
> > 
> > Is there a study group in Raleigh proper?  I'm 15 minutes 
> > from NCSU (from work).  
> > 
> > 
> > Matt Frye
> > (919) 784-3791
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
> >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> > Archives for the RHCE list:
> >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> 
_______________________________________________
RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
   http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
Archives for the RHCE list:
   http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce


From jim at neuse.net  Thu Aug 28 14:44:23 2003
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Thu Aug 28 14:44:27 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
In-Reply-To: <IMEEIECINCIJJPAGACNEEEMGCIAA.evaporation@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <000301c36d94$66881e90$0b01a8c0@boxer>

Will do.  I'll post a list in the near future.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org 
> [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Mullis
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:36 PM
> To: Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> Subject: RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> 
> 
> I am in Raleigh and count me in.
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org 
> [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org]On Behalf Of Frye, Matthew
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:21 AM
> To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> Subject: RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> 
> 
> Sounds good.  Count us three then for Raleigh, and I'm 
> standing by on CH if necessary.  

From thm at duke.edu  Thu Aug 28 14:47:09 2003
From: thm at duke.edu (Hunter Matthews)
Date: Thu Aug 28 14:47:10 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
In-Reply-To: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E023C88F9@tinman3.rexhealth.com>
References: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E023C88F9@tinman3.rexhealth.com>
Message-ID: <1062096429.3931.10.camel@jade.biology.duke.edu>

I vote for raleigh as well.


On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 14:21, Frye, Matthew wrote:
> Sounds good.  Count us three then for Raleigh, and I'm standing by on CH if
> necessary.  
> 
> > ----------
> > From: 	Jim Ray[SMTP:jim@neuse.net]
> > Reply To: 	jim@neuse.net;Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> > Sent: 	Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:48 PM
> > To: 	'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> > Subject: 	RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> > 
> > I would like to start one.  Whadaya say we see which of the two proposed
> > study groups reach the magic number of 12 first and go with it?  Ah,
> > classic
> > UNC vs NCSU.  I am 1 block from NCSU campus off Hillsborough St and have
> > meeting approval from my boss (wife) for the living room once a week or
> > whatever the group decides.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org 
> > > [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org] On Behalf Of Frye, Matthew
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:44 PM
> > > To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> > > Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Is there a study group in Raleigh proper?  I'm 15 minutes 
> > > from NCSU (from work).  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Matt Frye
> > > (919) 784-3791
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
> > >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> > > Archives for the RHCE list:
> > >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> > > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
> >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> > Archives for the RHCE list:
> >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> > 
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
-- 
Hunter Matthews                          Unix / Network Administrator
Office: BioScience 145/244               Duke Univ. Biology Department
Key: F0F88438 / FFB5 34C0 B350 99A4 BB02  9779 A5DB 8B09 F0F8 8438
Never take candy from strangers. Especially on the internet.

From knowlesc at scaredsheep.net  Thu Aug 28 14:52:43 2003
From: knowlesc at scaredsheep.net (Chris Knowles)
Date: Thu Aug 28 14:52:45 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
In-Reply-To: <1062096429.3931.10.camel@jade.biology.duke.edu>
References: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E023C88F9@tinman3.rexhealth.com>
	<1062096429.3931.10.camel@jade.biology.duke.edu>
Message-ID: <1062096760.4691.18.camel@cjlinux>

Raleigh is much better for me than CH.

CJK

On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 14:47, Hunter Matthews wrote:
> I vote for raleigh as well.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 14:21, Frye, Matthew wrote:
> > Sounds good.  Count us three then for Raleigh, and I'm standing by on CH if
> > necessary.  
> > 
> > > ----------
> > > From: 	Jim Ray[SMTP:jim@neuse.net]
> > > Reply To: 	jim@neuse.net;Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> > > Sent: 	Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:48 PM
> > > To: 	'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> > > Subject: 	RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> > > 
> > > I would like to start one.  Whadaya say we see which of the two proposed
> > > study groups reach the magic number of 12 first and go with it?  Ah,
> > > classic
> > > UNC vs NCSU.  I am 1 block from NCSU campus off Hillsborough St and have
> > > meeting approval from my boss (wife) for the living room once a week or
> > > whatever the group decides.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org 
> > > > [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org] On Behalf Of Frye, Matthew
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:44 PM
> > > > To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> > > > Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Is there a study group in Raleigh proper?  I'm 15 minutes 
> > > > from NCSU (from work).  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Matt Frye
> > > > (919) 784-3791
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
> > > >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> > > > Archives for the RHCE list:
> > > >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
> > >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> > > Archives for the RHCE list:
> > >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> > > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
> >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> > Archives for the RHCE list:
> >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
From srhoffman at bellsouth.net  Thu Aug 28 16:25:46 2003
From: srhoffman at bellsouth.net (Steve Hoffman)
Date: Thu Aug 28 16:25:48 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
In-Reply-To: <IMEEIECINCIJJPAGACNEEEMGCIAA.evaporation@mindspring.com>
References: <IMEEIECINCIJJPAGACNEEEMGCIAA.evaporation@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <1062102294.25658.1.camel@mssr5.raleigh.ibm.com>

You can count me in for Raleigh too (preferably the NCSU area).  I'll
talk to the ms. about possibly hosting some meetings. 

Steve

From kevin at flanagannc.net  Thu Aug 28 18:11:26 2003
From: kevin at flanagannc.net (Kevin Flanagan)
Date: Thu Aug 28 18:11:28 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
In-Reply-To: <001401c36d8c$a217bea0$0b01a8c0@boxer>
References: <001401c36d8c$a217bea0$0b01a8c0@boxer>
Message-ID: <1062108636.986.3.camel@saturn>

On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 13:48, Jim Ray wrote:

I'm fairly sure that I could host the group in Raleigh on Atlantic Ave,
just between Old Wake Forest and Capital exits off of 440. We could use
a conference room, I have network gear, and some systems, PII400
Proliant servers.  The only thing is that a BB&T employee would have to
be there at all times.  There is another person at work who is
interested in the study group too.    If everyone had a laptop, or
lugable desktop, we could easily have a couple of monitors, keyboards
etc there.



Kevin


> I would like to start one.  Whadaya say we see which of the two proposed
> study groups reach the magic number of 12 first and go with it?  Ah, classic
> UNC vs NCSU.  I am 1 block from NCSU campus off Hillsborough St and have
> meeting approval from my boss (wife) for the living room once a week or
> whatever the group decides.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org 
> > [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org] On Behalf Of Frye, Matthew
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:44 PM
> > To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> > Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> > 
> > 
> > Is there a study group in Raleigh proper?  I'm 15 minutes 
> > from NCSU (from work).  
> > 
> > 
> > Matt Frye
> > (919) 784-3791
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
> >    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> > Archives for the RHCE list:
> >    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> RHCE@trilug.org Mailing list
>    http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/rhce
> Archives for the RHCE list:
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce
-- 

From dave at matusiak.org  Thu Aug 28 19:04:28 2003
From: dave at matusiak.org (David R.Matusiak)
Date: Thu Aug 28 19:04:38 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
In-Reply-To: <1062096760.4691.18.camel@cjlinux>
Message-ID: <F98C2F9A-D9AB-11D7-AEB9-000393D1D172@matusiak.org>

I would mention that "CH is good for me," but I'm afraid of being eaten 
by the wolves.  Regardless, I envision two groups forming to serve the 
two different ends of the Triangle.  I know of a few people over here 
that would be interested in a RHCE study group. < 
http://orangeroom.org/ >

And a tech babble list that is not as "strictly RHCE" as this one:
< http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/orangeroom >

Still I think that the East Coast and West Coast groups could benefit 
from knowledge sharing, as well as the excellent outline given us by 
the previous TriLUG group.  < http://www.trilug.org/~lisa/syllabus.html 
 >

Cheers!
dave m.

On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 02:52  PM, Chris Knowles wrote:

> Raleigh is much better for me than CH.
>
> CJK
>
> On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 14:47, Hunter Matthews wrote:
>> I vote for raleigh as well.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 14:21, Frye, Matthew wrote:
>>> Sounds good.  Count us three then for Raleigh, and I'm standing by 
>>> on CH if
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>>> ----------
>>>> From: 	Jim Ray[SMTP:jim@neuse.net]
>>>> Reply To: 	jim@neuse.net;Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
>>>> Sent: 	Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:48 PM
>>>> To: 	'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
>>>> Subject: 	RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
>>>>
>>>> I would like to start one.  Whadaya say we see which of the two 
>>>> proposed
>>>> study groups reach the magic number of 12 first and go with it?  Ah,
>>>> classic
>>>> UNC vs NCSU.  I am 1 block from NCSU campus off Hillsborough St and 
>>>> have
>>>> meeting approval from my boss (wife) for the living room once a 
>>>> week or
>>>> whatever the group decides.
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org
>>>>> [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org] On Behalf Of Frye, Matthew
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:44 PM
>>>>> To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
>>>>> Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a study group in Raleigh proper?  I'm 15 minutes
>>>>> from NCSU (from work).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Frye
>>>>> (919) 784-3791

From jim at neuse.net  Thu Aug 28 19:26:24 2003
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Thu Aug 28 19:26:35 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
In-Reply-To: <1062108636.986.3.camel@saturn>
Message-ID: <001b01c36dbb$cce50960$6601a8c0@terrapinjunction.com>

that bbt location might be the best bet if space is available.  otherwise,
my wife confirmed again tonight that once a week is fine at my house one
block from the ncsu library on vanderbilt ave.  i have another room with a
20" monitor, kvm switch and lots of computers that are available for
tinkering.  shoot, i even have a domain name not really in use with dynamic
dns.  we could do some real live internet stuff and make accounts for
everyone in the class to do more tinkering. parking can be an issue over
here, though.  ncsu territory.

parking or no, we do have the advantage here in that no one else will be
using the facilities; so, we can set it up to our mutual liking and not have
to worry about anyone making changes between classes.  plenty of switched
ports and fast internet here.

we've got lots of folks to go on and at least try to find a common
denominator on the calendar.  i say once a week on any given evening mon,
tue, wed or thur and leave the weekend free for family stuff.  if once a
week is too much, every other week is fine, too.  i just assume do once a
week and get on with it.

let's hold an organizational meeting, bring calendars, decide on whatever
study materials we will use and get started.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Flanagan [mailto:kevin@flanagannc.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:11 PM
> To: jim@neuse.net; Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> Cc: kflanagan@bbandt.com
> Subject: RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
>
>
> I'm fairly sure that I could host the group in Raleigh on
> Atlantic Ave,
> just between Old Wake Forest and Capital exits off of 440. We
> could use
> a conference room, I have network gear, and some systems, PII400
> Proliant servers.  The only thing is that a BB&T employee
> would have to
> be there at all times.  There is another person at work who is
> interested in the study group too.    If everyone had a laptop, or
> lugable desktop, we could easily have a couple of monitors, keyboards
> etc there.
>
>
>
> Kevin
>

From Matthew.Frye at rexhealth.com  Thu Aug 28 19:51:11 2003
From: Matthew.Frye at rexhealth.com (Frye, Matthew)
Date: Thu Aug 28 19:51:42 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
Message-ID: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E023C88FC@tinman3.rexhealth.com>

Sounds good.  Once a week would be fine.  I'm available any night next week
for the organizational meeting.  We can iron out the details then.  



> ----------
> From: 	Jim Ray[SMTP:jim@neuse.net]
> Reply To: 	Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> Sent: 	Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:26 PM
> To: 	'Kevin Flanagan'; rhce@trilug.org
> Subject: 	RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> 
> that bbt location might be the best bet if space is available.  otherwise,
> my wife confirmed again tonight that once a week is fine at my house one
> block from the ncsu library on vanderbilt ave.  i have another room with a
> 20" monitor, kvm switch and lots of computers that are available for
> tinkering.  shoot, i even have a domain name not really in use with
> dynamic
> dns.  we could do some real live internet stuff and make accounts for
> everyone in the class to do more tinkering. parking can be an issue over
> here, though.  ncsu territory.
> 
> parking or no, we do have the advantage here in that no one else will be
> using the facilities; so, we can set it up to our mutual liking and not
> have
> to worry about anyone making changes between classes.  plenty of switched
> ports and fast internet here.
> 
> we've got lots of folks to go on and at least try to find a common
> denominator on the calendar.  i say once a week on any given evening mon,
> tue, wed or thur and leave the weekend free for family stuff.  if once a
> week is too much, every other week is fine, too.  i just assume do once a
> week and get on with it.
> 
> let's hold an organizational meeting, bring calendars, decide on whatever
> study materials we will use and get started.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Flanagan [mailto:kevin@flanagannc.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:11 PM
> > To: jim@neuse.net; Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> > Cc: kflanagan@bbandt.com
> > Subject: RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> >
> >
> > I'm fairly sure that I could host the group in Raleigh on
> > Atlantic Ave,
> > just between Old Wake Forest and Capital exits off of 440. We
> > could use
> > a conference room, I have network gear, and some systems, PII400
> > Proliant servers.  The only thing is that a BB&T employee
> > would have to
> > be there at all times.  There is another person at work who is
> > interested in the study group too.    If everyone had a laptop, or
> > lugable desktop, we could easily have a couple of monitors, keyboards
> > etc there.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> 
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From jim at neuse.net  Thu Aug 28 20:08:48 2003
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Thu Aug 28 20:08:52 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group - organizational meeting Wednesday
	7:30 pm 3 Sept 2003
In-Reply-To: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E023C88FC@tinman3.rexhealth.com>
Message-ID: <002b01c36dc1$b8ada7d0$6601a8c0@terrapinjunction.com>

well, then.  i'll invite interested parties to my house on Wednesday at 7:30
pm (3 Sept 2003).  directions appended below.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org
> [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org]On Behalf
> Of Frye, Matthew
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:51 PM
> To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> Subject: RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
>
>
> Sounds good.  Once a week would be fine.  I'm available any
> night next week
> for the organizational meeting.  We can iron out the details then.

Directions to 2610 Vanderbilt Ave

Jim x201 (jim@neuse.net)
tel 919-838-1672 toll free 800-617-7652

We are located between Clark, Hillsborough, Gardner and Pogue near DH Hill
Library on NC State campus.

from North Raleigh
Get on Capital Blvd/US 1 heading toward downtown.  Exit onto Wade Ave after
the Fairview Rd underpass.  After a couple of miles, exit onto Oberlin Rd
heading toward Cameron Village Shopping Center.  After passing the shopping
center, turn right onto Clark Ave.  Go a few blocks and turn left on Pogue
St at the bottom of the hill.  Go one block and turn right on Vanderbilt
Ave.  The house will be the third one on the right (1-1/2 story stone
house).

from West Raleigh
Take I-40 E to exit 289 (Wade Ave).  Travel on Wade Ave past two major
interchanges (Blue Ridge Rd and then I-440).  Continue until the 4th traffic
light after the I-440 interchange.  Turn right at the top of the hill onto
Brooks Ave.  Turn left onto Vanderbilt Ave on 9th street on the left.  Go 1
? blocks and look for 1 ? story stone house on left.

from East and South Raleigh
Take I-440 exit 298 (Saunders St) and go toward uptown Raleigh.  Turn onto
Western Blvd before the overpass and head toward NC State.  Pass Pullen Park
on the right and turn right onto Pullen Rd.  Pass NC State, turn left go
around left side of bell tower.  Turn right at the stop sign.  At the light,
turn left onto Hillsborough St.  Go 3 blocks and turn right onto Pogue St.
Go 1 block and turn left onto Vanderbilt Ave.  Go ? block and look for 1 ?
story stone house on right (3rd house on right next to house on corner).




From painter at kiasoft.com  Thu Aug 28 21:37:24 2003
From: painter at kiasoft.com (Jeffery Painter)
Date: Thu Aug 28 21:37:26 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group - organizational meeting Wednesday
	7:30 pm 3 Sept 2003
In-Reply-To: <002b01c36dc1$b8ada7d0$6601a8c0@terrapinjunction.com>
References: <002b01c36dc1$b8ada7d0$6601a8c0@terrapinjunction.com>
Message-ID: <3F4EAE54.2020207@kiasoft.com>

Sounds great! I will be on the road Wednesday but will try to make it 
back in time for the org meeting.

Jeff Painter

Jim Ray wrote:

>well, then.  i'll invite interested parties to my house on Wednesday at 7:30
>pm (3 Sept 2003).  directions appended below.
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org
>>[mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org]On Behalf
>>Of Frye, Matthew
>>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:51 PM
>>To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
>>Subject: RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
>>
>>
>>Sounds good.  Once a week would be fine.  I'm available any
>>night next week
>>for the organizational meeting.  We can iron out the details then.
>>    
>>
>
>Directions to 2610 Vanderbilt Ave
>
>Jim x201 (jim@neuse.net)
>tel 919-838-1672 toll free 800-617-7652
>
>We are located between Clark, Hillsborough, Gardner and Pogue near DH Hill
>Library on NC State campus.
>
>from North Raleigh
>Get on Capital Blvd/US 1 heading toward downtown.  Exit onto Wade Ave after
>the Fairview Rd underpass.  After a couple of miles, exit onto Oberlin Rd
>heading toward Cameron Village Shopping Center.  After passing the shopping
>center, turn right onto Clark Ave.  Go a few blocks and turn left on Pogue
>St at the bottom of the hill.  Go one block and turn right on Vanderbilt
>Ave.  The house will be the third one on the right (1-1/2 story stone
>house).
>
>from West Raleigh
>Take I-40 E to exit 289 (Wade Ave).  Travel on Wade Ave past two major
>interchanges (Blue Ridge Rd and then I-440).  Continue until the 4th traffic
>light after the I-440 interchange.  Turn right at the top of the hill onto
>Brooks Ave.  Turn left onto Vanderbilt Ave on 9th street on the left.  Go 1
>? blocks and look for 1 ? story stone house on left.
>
>from East and South Raleigh
>Take I-440 exit 298 (Saunders St) and go toward uptown Raleigh.  Turn onto
>Western Blvd before the overpass and head toward NC State.  Pass Pullen Park
>on the right and turn right onto Pullen Rd.  Pass NC State, turn left go
>around left side of bell tower.  Turn right at the stop sign.  At the light,
>turn left onto Hillsborough St.  Go 3 blocks and turn right onto Pogue St.
>Go 1 block and turn left onto Vanderbilt Ave.  Go ? block and look for 1 ?
>story stone house on right (3rd house on right next to house on corner).
>
>
>
>
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From Matthew.Frye at rexhealth.com  Thu Aug 28 21:58:33 2003
From: Matthew.Frye at rexhealth.com (Frye, Matthew)
Date: Thu Aug 28 21:58:56 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group - organizational meeting Wednesday
	7:30 pm 3 Sept 2003
Message-ID: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E023C88FE@tinman3.rexhealth.com>

See you then Jim.  

Matt Frye
Office (919) 784-3791
Cell (919) 753-8242

> ----------
> From: 	Jim Ray[SMTP:jim@neuse.net]
> Reply To: 	Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> Sent: 	Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:08 PM
> To: 	'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> Subject: 	RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group - organizational meeting
> Wednesday 7:30 pm 3 Sept 2003
> 
> well, then.  i'll invite interested parties to my house on Wednesday at
> 7:30
> pm (3 Sept 2003).  directions appended below.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org
> > [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org]On Behalf
> > Of Frye, Matthew
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:51 PM
> > To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> > Subject: RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> >
> >
> > Sounds good.  Once a week would be fine.  I'm available any
> > night next week
> > for the organizational meeting.  We can iron out the details then.
> 
> Directions to 2610 Vanderbilt Ave
> 
> Jim x201 (jim@neuse.net)
> tel 919-838-1672 toll free 800-617-7652
> 
> We are located between Clark, Hillsborough, Gardner and Pogue near DH Hill
> Library on NC State campus.
> 
> from North Raleigh
> Get on Capital Blvd/US 1 heading toward downtown.  Exit onto Wade Ave
> after
> the Fairview Rd underpass.  After a couple of miles, exit onto Oberlin Rd
> heading toward Cameron Village Shopping Center.  After passing the
> shopping
> center, turn right onto Clark Ave.  Go a few blocks and turn left on Pogue
> St at the bottom of the hill.  Go one block and turn right on Vanderbilt
> Ave.  The house will be the third one on the right (1-1/2 story stone
> house).
> 
> from West Raleigh
> Take I-40 E to exit 289 (Wade Ave).  Travel on Wade Ave past two major
> interchanges (Blue Ridge Rd and then I-440).  Continue until the 4th
> traffic
> light after the I-440 interchange.  Turn right at the top of the hill onto
> Brooks Ave.  Turn left onto Vanderbilt Ave on 9th street on the left.  Go
> 1
> ? blocks and look for 1 ? story stone house on left.
> 
> from East and South Raleigh
> Take I-440 exit 298 (Saunders St) and go toward uptown Raleigh.  Turn onto
> Western Blvd before the overpass and head toward NC State.  Pass Pullen
> Park
> on the right and turn right onto Pullen Rd.  Pass NC State, turn left go
> around left side of bell tower.  Turn right at the stop sign.  At the
> light,
> turn left onto Hillsborough St.  Go 3 blocks and turn right onto Pogue St.
> Go 1 block and turn left onto Vanderbilt Ave.  Go ? block and look for 1 ?
> story stone house on right (3rd house on right next to house on corner).
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jim at neuse.net  Thu Aug 28 22:02:33 2003
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Thu Aug 28 22:02:36 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group - organizational meeting Wednesday7:30
	pm 3 Sept 2003
In-Reply-To: <3F4EAE54.2020207@kiasoft.com>
Message-ID: <000001c36dd1$9c503340$6601a8c0@terrapinjunction.com>

i pulled wednesday out of a hat; so, if another day is better, speak now or
forever hold your peace.  i'm easy.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org
> [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org]On Behalf
> Of Jeffery Painter
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:37 PM
> To: Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> Subject: Re: [RHCE] Raleigh study group - organizational meeting
> Wednesday7:30 pm 3 Sept 2003
>
>
> Sounds great! I will be on the road Wednesday but will try to make it
> back in time for the org meeting.
>
> Jeff Painter
>    http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/rhce

From baldwinj at email.unc.edu  Fri Aug 29 08:21:59 2003
From: baldwinj at email.unc.edu (Jeff Baldwin)
Date: Fri Aug 29 08:22:40 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
In-Reply-To: <IMEEIECINCIJJPAGACNEEEMGCIAA.evaporation@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.44+UNC.0308290821170.54624-100000@login4.isis.unc.edu>

Looks like I'll be makig the hike from the "Thrill" to Raleigh also... as
I got 'no love' from my TarHeels for the UNC study group.

JEff

+-----------------------------------------------+
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|  Computer Consultant II
|
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|  213 Miller Hall
|  CB# 1105
|  Chapel Hill, NC 27599
|
|  Phone: (919) 843-2725
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Jeremy Mullis wrote:

> I am in Raleigh and count me in.
>
> Jeremy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org]On Behalf
> Of Frye, Matthew
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:21 AM
> To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> Subject: RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
>
>
> Sounds good.  Count us three then for Raleigh, and I'm standing by on CH if
> necessary.
>
> > ----------
> > From: 	Jim Ray[SMTP:jim@neuse.net]
> > Reply To: 	jim@neuse.net;Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> > Sent: 	Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:48 PM
> > To: 	'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> > Subject: 	RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> >
> > I would like to start one.  Whadaya say we see which of the two proposed
> > study groups reach the magic number of 12 first and go with it?  Ah,
> > classic
> > UNC vs NCSU.  I am 1 block from NCSU campus off Hillsborough St and have
> > meeting approval from my boss (wife) for the living room once a week or
> > whatever the group decides.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org
> > > [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org] On Behalf Of Frye, Matthew
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:44 PM
> > > To: 'Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group'
> > > Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> > >
> > >
> > > Is there a study group in Raleigh proper?  I'm 15 minutes
> > > from NCSU (from work).
> > >
> > >
> > > Matt Frye
> > > (919) 784-3791
> > >
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From rock at trilug.org  Fri Aug 29 10:05:05 2003
From: rock at trilug.org (Rock Roskam)
Date: Fri Aug 29 10:05:06 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
In-Reply-To: <1062102294.25658.1.camel@mssr5.raleigh.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0308291004060.18501-100000@moya.trilug.org>

Wednesday is fine with me.  The raleigh locatation sounds good.  I look 
forward to seeing everybody.

Rock
On 28 Aug 2003, Steve Hoffman wrote:

> You can count me in for Raleigh too (preferably the NCSU area).  I'll
> talk to the ms. about possibly hosting some meetings. 
> 
> Steve
> 
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From jim at neuse.net  Fri Aug 29 10:12:38 2003
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Fri Aug 29 10:12:41 2003
Subject: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
In-Reply-To: <Pine.A41.4.44+UNC.0308290821170.54624-100000@login4.isis.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <000f01c36e37$9a84b1b0$6601a8c0@terrapinjunction.com>

my wife graduated from unc-ch.  you will be in good company.  bring it on.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhce-bounces@trilug.org 
> [mailto:rhce-bounces@trilug.org]On Behalf
> Of Jeff Baldwin
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:22 AM
> To: Red Hat Certified Engineer exam study group
> Subject: RE: [RHCE] Raleigh study group
> 
> 
> Looks like I'll be makig the hike from the "Thrill" to 
> Raleigh also... as
> I got 'no love' from my TarHeels for the UNC study group.
> 
> JEff
> 

