From jim at neuse.net  Sat Jun 12 21:22:31 2004
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Sat Jun 12 21:22:37 2004
Subject: [RHCE] Tuesday 22 June 2004 RHCE Study Group - dinner plans - RSVP
Message-ID: <000101c450e4$e658ee90$6501a8c0@hal>

Well, I talked to Matt, our de facto group leader, at lunch on Friday and
got his blessing on letting Rock start hosting our labs after 22 June 2004.
I've been hosting for the better part of a year and have enjoyed the company
and the learning process.  With the baby coming on 8 July 2004 and with my
garage no where near completion, me thinks it would be best for all parties
concerned to pass the hosting gavel to Rock.

As a final meeting here at my house, Trinette has given her blessing on
having everybody over for dinner including families.  Trinette and I can
pick up some burgers and dogs and let others bring a covered dish.  Brad and
Raymond still have a better part of a six pack of brew ha ha in the fridge.
Me thinks we still have sodas from Matt (we killed all those killer sodas
from Rock).

I doubt we'll actually crack the book yet hope everyone interested will feel
free to come over and break bread together whether or not you have been a
regular attendee.  Please RSVP so we know how much food to get.  If anyone
has a preference for a covered dish, respond on the list so duplication is
minimal.

On a personal note, it has truly been my great pleasure meeting together.  I
have every intention of continuing to participate and to push the envelope
as much as possible.  I recently talked to my connection at Exploris and
still have the door open to also do some trial sessions with video over IP.
Interesting roads ahead.

Regards,

Jim

Jim Ray, MCSE
Network Engineer
Neuse River Network, Inc.
2610 Vanderbilt Ave
Raleigh NC 27607-7247
tel: 919-838-1672 x201 toll free: 800-617-7652
http://www.Neuse.Net

From jim at neuse.net  Fri Jun 18 16:06:52 2004
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Fri Jun 18 16:06:55 2004
Subject: [RHCE] bbq cancelled due to lack of response,
	feel free to come over for 7 pm June 22 last meeting at my
	house on ch 9
Message-ID: <000001c4556f$cc4dad30$6501a8c0@hal>

22nd (Tuesday) 7-9 PM:
Chapter 9

Only one person responded regarding my dinner invitation.  Therefore, dinner
has been cancelled.  Feel free to come over for the last meeting at my house
before Rock takes over hosting.

Regards,

Jim

From Matthew.Frye at rexhealth.com  Sat Jun 19 15:36:05 2004
From: Matthew.Frye at rexhealth.com (Frye, Matthew)
Date: Sat Jun 19 15:36:13 2004
Subject: [RHCE] bbq cancelled due to lack of response, feel free to co
	me over for 7 pm June 22 last meeting at my house on ch 9
Message-ID: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E03F1A2CC@tinman3.rexhealth.com>

Jim,
	I didn't realize that we needed to respond.  I'll try to come by
anyhow.  

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Ray [mailto:jim@neuse.net]
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:07 PM
To: 'Trilug RHCE'
Subject: [RHCE] bbq cancelled due to lack of response, feel free to come
over for 7 pm June 22 last meeting at my house on ch 9


22nd (Tuesday) 7-9 PM:
Chapter 9

Only one person responded regarding my dinner invitation.  Therefore, dinner
has been cancelled.  Feel free to come over for the last meeting at my house
before Rock takes over hosting.

Regards,

Jim


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From jim at neuse.net  Sun Jun 20 15:51:34 2004
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Sun Jun 20 15:51:39 2004
Subject: [RHCE] bbq cancelled due to lack of response,
	feel free to come over for 7 pm June 22 last meeting at my house on
	ch 9
In-Reply-To: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E03F1A2CC@tinman3.rexhealth.com>
Message-ID: <000101c456ff$fdf09c30$6501a8c0@hal>

> Jim,
> 	I didn't realize that we needed to respond.  I'll try to come by
> anyhow.
> 
> Matt
> 
[JR>] no prob.  It is prolly for the best.  Even though I know we could have
fired up the grill and exercised with some 12 oz curls, 9 mon pregnant wife
still anticipated major production.  Me thinks penciling in something after
we finish the book since we're only a few chapters away would work best.

See you'll/yous guys Tuesday.

Regards,

jim

From tom at familyfunnies.com  Mon Jun 21 00:57:40 2004
From: tom at familyfunnies.com (Tom Woods)
Date: Mon Jun 21 00:57:02 2004
Subject: [RHCE] bbq cancelled due to lack of response, feel free to co
	me over for 7 pm June 22 last meeting at my house on ch 9
In-Reply-To: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E03F1A2CC@tinman3.rexhealth.com>
References: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E03F1A2CC@tinman3.rexhealth.com>
Message-ID: <40D66AC4.6080401@familyfunnies.com>

Oops... I overlooked the RSVP request, too...   Sorry!

But, still best to keep Mrs. Ray happy :)   I'm glad it worked out. 

See ya Thursday!

Tom

Frye, Matthew wrote:

>Jim,
>	I didn't realize that we needed to respond.  I'll try to come by
>anyhow.  
>
>Matt
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Ray [mailto:jim@neuse.net]
>Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:07 PM
>To: 'Trilug RHCE'
>Subject: [RHCE] bbq cancelled due to lack of response, feel free to come
>over for 7 pm June 22 last meeting at my house on ch 9
>
>
>22nd (Tuesday) 7-9 PM:
>Chapter 9
>
>Only one person responded regarding my dinner invitation.  Therefore, dinner
>has been cancelled.  Feel free to come over for the last meeting at my house
>before Rock takes over hosting.
>
>Regards,
>
>Jim
>
>
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From jim at neuse.net  Mon Jun 21 06:26:48 2004
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Mon Jun 21 06:26:53 2004
Subject: [RHCE] bbq cancelled due to lack of response,
	feel free to come over for 7 pm June 22 last meeting at my house on
	ch 9
In-Reply-To: <40D66AC4.6080401@familyfunnies.com>
Message-ID: <001001c4577a$42def0b0$6501a8c0@hal>

> Oops... I overlooked the RSVP request, too...   Sorry!
> 
> But, still best to keep Mrs. Ray happy :)   I'm glad it worked out.
> 
> See ya Thursday!
> 
> Tom
[JR>] *Tuesday* this week :-)

From jim at neuse.net  Tue Jun 22 11:04:49 2004
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Tue Jun 22 11:04:53 2004
Subject: [RHCE] tonight is the night - 7 pm - be there - aloha
Message-ID: <001b01c4586a$443e2e80$6501a8c0@hal>

Last rhce study group class at my house 7-9 pm tonight.  Fridge is stocked
with ample brew ha ha (I just got another 12 pack from neighbor for taking
car of house while gone).  Exisiting rhce-owned 12 pack already cold and
chilly.

I reckon we're doing chapter 9 and exercising with 12 oz curls before we
segway back into Microsoft Windows XP Pro and Outlook Express.

Seeya,

Jim

PS thanks to all who have participated thus far for making our group what it
is.  Rock, it is your baby after tonight.

Jim Ray, MCSE
Network Engineer
Neuse River Network, Inc.
2610 Vanderbilt Ave
Raleigh NC 27607-7247
tel: 919-838-1672 x201 toll free: 800-617-7652
http://www.Neuse.Net

From tom at familyfunnies.com  Wed Jun 23 08:59:37 2004
From: tom at familyfunnies.com (Tom Woods)
Date: Wed Jun 23 09:00:03 2004
Subject: [RHCE] bbq cancelled due to lack of response,	feel free to come
	over for 7 pm June 22 last meeting at my house on	ch 9
In-Reply-To: <001001c4577a$42def0b0$6501a8c0@hal>
References: <001001c4577a$42def0b0$6501a8c0@hal>
Message-ID: <40D97EB9.2000908@familyfunnies.com>

Oops...  Guess I should check my email more often!  Hope ya'll had fun.

Tom

Jim Ray wrote:

>>Oops... I overlooked the RSVP request, too...   Sorry!
>>
>>But, still best to keep Mrs. Ray happy :)   I'm glad it worked out.
>>
>>See ya Thursday!
>>
>>Tom
>>    
>>
>[JR>] *Tuesday* this week :-)
>
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From jim at neuse.net  Wed Jun 23 12:37:38 2004
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Wed Jun 23 12:37:41 2004
Subject: [RHCE] bbq cancelled due to lack of response,
	feel free to come over for 7 pm June 22 last meeting at my house
	on	ch 9
In-Reply-To: <40D97EB9.2000908@familyfunnies.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c45940$65839e00$6501a8c0@hal>

 

Oops...  Guess I should check my email more often!  Hope ya'll had fun.





Tom






[JR>] we missed you!  The hosting gavel, chocolate, sodas and beer has been
passed to Rock.  See you 22 July at Rock's house.

 

From jim at neuse.net  Wed Jun 23 12:37:38 2004
From: jim at neuse.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Wed Jun 23 12:37:43 2004
Subject: [RHCE] Rhce study session 22 June 2004 notes
Message-ID: <001701c45940$65f4af50$6501a8c0@hal>

Rhce study session 22 June 2004
Attendees
Rock, Brad, Jim
Business
Next meeting at Rock's house on 22 July 2004 (continue with Chapter 9)
Meeting
1.	ssh 192.168.1.201 -> topbox
2.	vncserver :1
3.	vnc client -> vncviewer -viewonly -shared 192.168.1.201:1
4.	redhat-config-bind
5.	/sbin/service named restart
6.	see http://www.webmin.com
a.	rpm -Uvh webmin-1.150-1.noarch.rpm
b.	http://topbox:10000
7.	vncserver -kill :1

From Matthew.Frye at rexhealth.com  Wed Jun 23 12:46:36 2004
From: Matthew.Frye at rexhealth.com (Frye, Matthew)
Date: Wed Jun 23 12:46:43 2004
Subject: [RHCE] Rhce study session 22 June 2004 notes
Message-ID: <95796EEB962111468091DAAB4ABE934E03F1A2F5@tinman3.rexhealth.com>

Sorry I missed guys.  Too much going on here.  I will try to attend some
sessions at Rock's house, but I'm really trying to reduce my keyboard time
off hours while the weather is "good."  I will be passing the RHCE list
moderatorship to Rock also.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Ray [mailto:jim@neuse.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:38 PM
> To: 'Trilug RHCE'
> Subject: [RHCE] Rhce study session 22 June 2004 notes
> 
> 
> Rhce study session 22 June 2004
> Attendees
> Rock, Brad, Jim
> Business
> Next meeting at Rock's house on 22 July 2004 (continue with Chapter 9)
> Meeting
> 1.	ssh 192.168.1.201 -> topbox
> 2.	vncserver :1
> 3.	vnc client -> vncviewer -viewonly -shared 192.168.1.201:1
> 4.	redhat-config-bind
> 5.	/sbin/service named restart
> 6.	see http://www.webmin.com
> a.	rpm -Uvh webmin-1.150-1.noarch.rpm
> b.	http://topbox:10000
> 7.	vncserver -kill :1
> 
> 

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From Rock.Roskam at sas.com  Wed Jun 23 12:54:14 2004
From: Rock.Roskam at sas.com (Rock Roskam)
Date: Wed Jun 23 12:54:18 2004
Subject: [RHCE] Next meeting possible on July 22nd
Message-ID: <2071792FF9B72B45BB53E0A903A33FA90376F8@MERC24.na.sas.com>

The next meeting will be held at my house.  I am proposing the next meeting be held on July 22nd.  At one of prior meetings I thought we had decided on a little break.  Jim has already handed me the goodies box.  I will post a map closer to the time of class.  I assume the same time will work of 7-9 PM.  I have RR cable and wifi.  I also have a not very functional domain on dyndns to play with and give outside access.  I  have a system to use as a server and a hard drive to setup just for this class. I have a 16 port hub so networking will be available.  I do not have that many network cables so please bring your own.  

My address is 
1230 Inglehurst Drive
Raleigh NC 27613
(919) 676-6683

Take the Leesville road exit from 540 and go away from the shopping center.
Go straight by the St. Francis of Assisi school and onto New Leesville Blvd. 
Go past the Kicks 66 and make a right on North Radner Way
Take 3rd Left on Fairbridge Road
Take 1st right on Inglehurst Drive
My house is a yellow ranch on right in the cul de sac.


For the next class be prepared to finish Bind and move on to Squid.

Rock 


From somnath123s at softhome.net  Mon Jun 28 22:22:34 2004
From: somnath123s at softhome.net (somnath123s)
Date: Tue Jun 29 08:57:11 2004
Subject: [RHCE] echo ! in ~/.bashrc
Message-ID: <1088436585.2341.11.camel@localhost.localdomain>

hey folks!!

i found the following statement in book:
========================================================================
"Never put any command that may echo something to the screen in the
~/.bashrc file; such command belong in the ~/,bash_profile file only."
========================================================================


		why?

thanks in advance.

rgds,
somu




From somnath123s at softhome.net  Mon Jun 28 22:22:54 2004
From: somnath123s at softhome.net (somnath123s)
Date: Tue Jun 29 08:57:13 2004
Subject: [RHCE] umask
Message-ID: <1088437729.2341.30.camel@localhost.localdomain>

hey everyone!!

is there any way to give "umask" separately to files and directory?

rgds
somu
From jeremyp at pobox.com  Tue Jun 29 09:54:35 2004
From: jeremyp at pobox.com (Jeremy Portzer)
Date: Tue Jun 29 09:55:01 2004
Subject: [RHCE] echo ! in ~/.bashrc
In-Reply-To: <1088436585.2341.11.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1088436585.2341.11.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1088517275.18620.107.camel@jeremy.dtcc.cc.nc.us>

On Mon, 2004-06-28 at 22:22, somnath123s wrote:
> hey folks!!
> 
> i found the following statement in book:
> ========================================================================
> "Never put any command that may echo something to the screen in the
> ~/.bashrc file; such command belong in the ~/,bash_profile file only."
> ========================================================================
> 
> 
> 		why?
> 

~/.bashrc is run by all shells, including non-interactive ones.  This
can include shells that are started by shell scripts, shells being run
internally by numerous shell scripts within your system, etc.  The only
things you put in ~/.bashrc is "environment" changes (e.g., setting
variables, or other things like umask).  

~/.bash_profile on the other hand is only run by LOGIN shells, e.g.,
interactive ones.  It's okay to put things in here that echo to the
screen.  (Note that not all interactive shells are login shells; it
depends on how you start them.)

Hope this helps,

Jeremy Portzer, RHCE

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From jonc at nc.rr.com  Tue Jun 29 10:28:30 2004
From: jonc at nc.rr.com (Jon Carnes)
Date: Tue Jun 29 10:29:03 2004
Subject: [RHCE] umask
In-Reply-To: <1088437729.2341.30.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1088437729.2341.30.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1088519309.4569.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2004-06-28 at 22:22, somnath123s wrote:
> hey everyone!!
> 
> is there any way to give "umask" separately to files and directory?
> 

That doesn't make sense to me. Umask sets the default rights mask for
newly created files and directories. It doesn't make sense to apply it
to already created files.

You want the file/directory rights to stay the same as they currently
are set?  

If you are using Samba to access the files or directories you can use
the "force" option to force various rights and ownerships. 

You can also use the chattr command to set some interesting rights. Use
lsattr to view those rights.



From somnath123s at softhome.net  Tue Jun 29 14:16:51 2004
From: somnath123s at softhome.net (somnath123s)
Date: Tue Jun 29 14:31:27 2004
Subject: [RHCE] umask
In-Reply-To: <1088519309.4569.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1088437729.2341.30.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1088519309.4569.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1088533010.2387.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>



On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 19:58, Jon Carnes wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-06-28 at 22:22, somnath123s wrote:
> > hey everyone!!
> > 
> > is there any way to give "umask" separately to files and directory?
> > 
> 
> That doesn't make sense to me. Umask sets the default rights mask for
> newly created files and directories. It doesn't make sense to apply it
> to already created files.

na..na...

i think once you set "umask" in any of your startup script, that will be
applied to files and directories both.b,coz that will affect the default
FAP value for files and directories, for priviledged users as well as
non-priviledged user.

now if i want to set "umask (user mask)" value for only and only files
OR only and only for directories, can i ? this my question.

> 
> You want the file/directory rights to stay the same as they currently
> are set?  
> 
> If you are using Samba to access the files or directories you can use
> the "force" option to force various rights and ownerships. 
> 
> You can also use the chattr command to set some interesting rights. Use
> lsattr to view those rights.
> 
> 
> 
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