excuse me?! (was Re: [triLUG] any clues?)

[lfwelty]

Jon Carnes wrote:
> 
> First of all, the RH docs are extremely good.  A newbie would do very well
> in reading those starting manuals.  The information is clear, and presented
> in a logical format.

I agree.  I started out w/ Matt Welsh's 'Running Linux' way back when,
I would have loved the user guide in its form today had it been available
then. Not that 'Running Linux' isn't still extremely usefull, just maybe
more than average newbie would want to work with to get a basic box up.

> 
> Don't increase the number of books in the Box set! ... at lest not for
> Newbies.  That would make someone new to Linux throw their hands in the air
> in despair.  Too much Documentation can be daunting.

Maybe, I would have liked to have the cg and rg in printed, bound form 
in the $60 box (which I bought btw).  I ended up printing and using them
myself in looseleaf binders... Not quite as usable as in a book.

> 
> Do market your books that you are in the process of writing (see your
> message below).  Sell them as low priced Add-on Manuals to the RH operating
> system.

Agreed. I would have bought the cg and rg were they available and reasonable
($10 - $20), rather than printing them out myself.

>    Security would be an awesome Add-on Manual, a *must* purchase, and quite
> a bargain at :  $10 to $25.
>    Networking would be another must have Add-on Manual!
>    SysAdmin should perhaps be bundled with the box set, but also available
> separately.
> 
ditto.

> I would also suggest an Add-on for Unified Passwords, maybe subtitle this
> as an LDAP how-to.  Also a webserver setup and integration book would be
> good.  So would a book that is aimed at setting up and maintaining an Mail
> server.
> 
> The net affect on Red Hat for such a move should be very positive, 

strongly agree -- plus I think it would perhaps be a source
of income from users who wouldn't purchase the boxed sets, but might
purchase the documentation seperately.

F.

> as it
> means that the Documentation department will now be paying for
> itself.  Trust me - Management takes a very different view of any
> department that brings in $Money$.  Resources and personnel magically
> appear.
> 
> Jon
> 
> On Wednesday 28 November 2001 10:19, Beth Ellison wrote:
> > >I've found Mandrake's "mandrake campus" to be pretty useful. I've been
> > >going
> > >through it and I've learned quite a bit about linux in general. Being a
> > > RH user, and might I add an almost "biggot", I would hope that RH would
> > > concider something of this nature.
> >
> > The Red Hat documentation department has gone from two people to five
> > withing the past 3 years, if that. There used to be 2 books, now there
> > are 4 and they cover more newbie stuff and more advanced stuff. We need
> > more people, but the money ain't there yet. We have an assload of new
> > documentation in the works, including security, sys admin, and
> > networking. Long story short, disregard any RH user manuals prior to 7.1.
> > They've changed dramatically since then and have tons of changes and
> > improvements in the works. The docs website is going to be a little slice
> > of Linux documentation paradise in coming months.
> >
> > That's the end of my RH Docs promotional campaign. Thanks.
> >
> > Beth
> >
> >
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