excuse me?! (was Re: [triLUG] any clues?)
John J. Cruz
Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:33:05 -0500
The biggest problem I have is not knowing what the differences are between 6.2 and 7.2. Do you know where one
can go for such info?
Beth Ellison wrote:
> >D I S A G R E E ! ! ! !
> Okay. You have trouble running your peripherals. You're right. The manuals
> suck. :|
> Any problems other than peripherals?
> By the way, I said the manuals can help a person install, get started, and
> do some configuration. I didn't say the manuals are perfect little wizards
> that can understand and fix every nuance of every computer out there. Lots
> and lots and lots of people have had zero trouble getting 7.2 to do exactly
> what they want. You aren't part of that lots and lots. Sorry.
> >To get to the point that you describe you must first get the OS to operate
> >as advertised. Installing from rh
> >6.2 to rh 7.2 required more then just ingesting the information between the
> >covers of the manuals provided.
> >For example to get the peripherals to work I had to re-installing
> >printconf, modify the PAM modules, and the
> >XF86Config file. But the biggest and still unresolved problem is using
> >the TDK CDRW121032 drive. I can not
> >get sound when playing music CDs. Implementing sndconfig and selecting
> >soundblaster allows the CMI8330/C3D
> >sound chip on the motherboard to work. It is not the audio cable from the
> >CDRW drive to the motherboard. In
> >win95/rh6.2 I can/could play music CDs.
> >The included manuals provided no help in this area. What would have help
> >is troubleshooting information,
> >something that M$ windows never provides.
> >Thanks for your help.
> >Beth Ellison wrote:
> > > >I haven't seen the 7.2 manuals, but from what I've
> > > >seen of the 7.1 manuals, Red Hat documentation is like
> > > >a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going
> > > >to get. Most of the user manual was incoherent and
> > > >contained scattered bits of cutesy tutorials on things
> > > >like making pretty pictures with Gimp or browsing
> > > >Usenet or the history of the Bourne shell,and not a
> > > >whole lot about setting up a basic system and getting
> > > >everything to work.
> > >
> > > "...scattered bits of cutesy tutorials/incoherent" my ass. Anyone who
> > > down with the *user guide* (the Getting Started Guide) and reads it from
> > > beginning, like you should when approaching something as daunting as a
> > > OS, can easily learn how to log in, create a user account, get online,
> > > customize the desktop, print, manage files, create basic files, etc. And
> > > gives lots of references for additional information elsewhere. It's not
> > > perfect, but it's a damn good book. I think you were reading the News &
> > > Observer, not the Red Hat GSG.
> > >
> > > Love,
> > > Beth
> > >
> > > I could easily see how someone
> > > >just starting out as a linux user wouldn't find it
> > > >very useful. I do think that people should ask for
> > > >help politely using coherent sentances that resemble
> > > >spoken english, but I also think people should
> > > >RTFM (such as the one below) ;)
> > > >
> > >
> > >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0966994914/qid=1006909262/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_11_1/103-6149916-8505422
> > > >
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