excuse me?! (was Re: [triLUG] any clues?)

Beth Ellison leonardbernst55 at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 30 08:00:37 EST 2001


>The biggest problem I have is not knowing what the differences are between 
>6.2 and 7.2.  Do you know where one
>can go for such info?

The release notes for 7.1 and 7.2 are on the website. Maybe that helps.

http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/



>
>jjc
>
>
>Beth Ellison wrote:
>
> > >D I S A G R E E ! ! ! !
> >
> > Okay. You have trouble running your peripherals. You're right. The 
>manuals
> > suck. :|
> >
> > Any problems other than peripherals?
> >
> > By the way, I said the manuals can help a person install, get started, 
>and
> > do some configuration. I didn't say the manuals are perfect little 
>wizards
> > that can understand and fix every nuance of every computer out there. 
>Lots
> > and lots and lots of people have had zero trouble getting 7.2 to do 
>exactly
> > what they want. You aren't part of that lots and lots. Sorry.
> >
> > >
> > >To get to the point that you describe you must first get the OS to 
>operate
> > >as advertised.  Installing from rh
> > >6.2 to rh 7.2 required more then just ingesting the information between 
>the
> > >covers of the manuals provided.
> > >
> > >For example to get the peripherals to work I had to re-installing
> > >printconf, modify the PAM modules, and the
> > >XF86Config file.  But the biggest and still unresolved problem is using
> > >the TDK CDRW121032 drive.  I can not
> > >get sound when playing music CDs.  Implementing sndconfig and selecting
> > >soundblaster allows the CMI8330/C3D
> > >sound chip on the motherboard to work.  It is not the audio cable from 
>the
> > >CDRW drive to the motherboard.  In
> > >win95/rh6.2 I can/could play music CDs.
> > >
> > >The included manuals provided no help in this area.  What would have 
>help
> > >is troubleshooting information,
> > >something that M$ windows never provides.
> > >
> > >jjc
> > >
> > >Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > >jjc
> > >
> > >Beth Ellison wrote:
> > >
> > > > >I haven't seen the 7.2 manuals, but from what I've
> > > > >seen of the 7.1 manuals, Red Hat documentation is like
> > > > >a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going
> > > > >to get. Most of the user manual was incoherent and
> > > > >contained scattered bits of cutesy tutorials on things
> > > > >like making pretty pictures with Gimp or browsing
> > > > >Usenet or the history of the Bourne shell,and not a
> > > > >whole lot about setting up a basic system and getting
> > > > >everything to work.
> > > >
> > > > "...scattered bits of cutesy tutorials/incoherent" my ass. Anyone 
>who
> > >sits
> > > > down with the *user guide* (the Getting Started Guide) and reads it 
>from
> > >the
> > > > beginning, like you should when approaching something as daunting as 
>a
> > >new
> > > > OS, can easily learn how to log in, create a user account, get 
>online,
> > > > customize the desktop, print, manage files, create basic files, etc. 
>And
> > >it
> > > > gives lots of references for additional information elsewhere. It's 
>not
> > > > perfect, but it's a damn good book. I think you were reading the 
>News &
> > > > Observer, not the Red Hat GSG.
> > > >
> > > > Love,
> > > > Beth
> > > >
> > > > I could easily see how someone
> > > > >just starting out as a linux user wouldn't find it
> > > > >very useful. I do think that people should ask for
> > > > >help politely using coherent sentances that resemble
> > > > >spoken english, but I also think people should
> > > > >RTFM (such as the one below) ;)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
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> > > > >
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