Security and WIFI (was Re: [TriLUG] who else is experimenting with the sharp zaurus?)

Andrew C. Oliver acoliver at apache.org
Fri May 17 13:01:28 EDT 2002


David A. Cafaro wrote:

> At 11:31 AM 5/17/2002, you wrote:
>
>> ;-) my wireless net doesn't really work in the front yard that well :-)
>
>
> Well that's one way to keep people out :-)

yeah low interest in getting it working there as no power outlets in the 
front yard... pleanty in the back! :-)

>
>> Lets talk likelyhood per amount of effort.  Its fairly unlikely I'd 
>> be a target due to the pure lack of gain.  General hacking over the 
>> net is another story because kids in Korea can do it with little 
>> chance of getting caught and low skill and effort so the low pay off 
>> (being annoying) is probably worth it.
>
>
> True it may not be worth it, but if you say live in a townhouse and 
> there are several people around you then, maybe it is worth it to sit 
> there and pick up say 4 peoples identities for 1 hours worth of work.  
> And if these are well todo people you could have access to some nice 
> credit lines, and bank accounts.


I have a house :-)

>
> This is just in theory, and may not be a big thing now, but it is 
> definitely something to keep in mind in the future.  And of course 
> this scenario won't apply to everyone.

true.  

>
>
>> Nope my cordless phones get dropped in water at least once every 2 
>> years.  We boiled one once..
>
>
> I have found that spaghetti tastes better with tomato sauce instead of 
> telephones myself ;-).
>
You're right!!!

>
>
>>> 3. That may even be enough time to break into some digital cordless 
>>> phones, though I'm not as well versed on that stuff.
>>
>>
>> Then they'd hear me tell 1,000,000 telemarketers never to call me again.
>
>
> Same here

I've found ways to create excellent backfeed with my cordless!  And I've 
found an audience to my experimental guitar playing!  

>
>
>> Now I have a better question.  How do I extend my vulnerability (my 
>> wireless network) further into my backyard without more wires?   I've 
>> got the Linksys wireless hub/cable router and it works okay but about 
>> half way into the back yard it quits (and its not very fast).  Is 
>> there some form of wireless repeater that will communicate with a 
>> base and client so that the signal strength is increased and 
>> extended?   :-)
>
>
> I would love to know of some cheap wireless repeaters my self.  
> Suppose you could do it with an old Linux laptop with two wifi cards 
> in it (one acting as an access point one acting as a client from the 
> other access point), but that wouldn't be as efficient as I would 
> like.  Besides that, you could build an add-on antenna for your base 
> station to try and increase your "vulnerability" ( ;-) ) further into 
> your backyard.

I'm actually trying to go to hardware pretty exclusively.  The Linux 
solution requires maintenance.  I'm a bit short on time.

>
> http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/has.html

Yeah I'd rather span a wireless web of sorts rather than buy a bigger 
antenna.  The wireless web of sorts is a bit more promising for my 
topography and the construction of my house.  

thanks,

Andy

>
> -David
>
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