[spam score 2/10 -pobox] [TriLUG] Linux Support Position (OT)
Andrew C. Oliver
06 Jul 2002 10:15:15 -0400
Ahh yes I find the "happy sitting and doing piddly very basic coding,
but has a Masters or Doctorate in science" employment ads. I certainly
understand their thinking, it just turns out their thinking is
If I had a doctorate in some Scientific field, that would indicate I'd
had a strong commitment to blow 8 years of my life on getting a
Doctorate in that scientific field. Now I might be just wacked out on
drugs, hotties, blowing my parent's money or something, but you'd think
that when it was over maybe I would want to practice/work in that field.
Would my dream job then be writing a webapp even if it was used by those
who were actually working in that field?
Now I'm a little duller than the rest of you brain scientists, but I
think not. ;-)
On Sat, 2002-07-06 at 09:44, Mike Mueller wrote:
> I was wondering about the
> requirements I've seen in employment ads. The combinations of skills and
> proficiencies required are rather escalated. The current environment is
> particularly useful for developing a database of people with technical
> skills. The cost per resume collected must be very attractive right now.
> The ideal skill set seems to be 5-10 years in a non-telecom business, SA for
> *nix and MS, Cisco certified, and expert ability to program in Perl, C++, VB,
> and Java. Candidates with brain surgery and rocket science experience are
> Now is a good time to hone those marketing (over-promising) skills. Ugh. It
> conjures up thoughts of infomercials where the announcer extolls the viewer
> to call now to get a FREE set of Linux SA's with the purchase.
> On Friday 05 July 2002 22:44, Andrew C. Oliver reputedly wrote:
> > Yes.... I've experienced Sysadmin-type slash DBAs first hand. Its not a
> > nice trend. Its may be actually
> > worse than the previous Programmer slash DBAs....
> > -Andy
> > Thunder Bear wrote:
> > >On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 19:20, Jon Carnes wrote:
> > >>BTW: the days of a System Admin doing only Systems work is fading rapidly
> > >>(if not already gone). SA's need extended skills in one or more of the
> > >>follow: Programming, Database/Web Applications design, or even a degree
> > >> in Business. In this respect, the traditional Universities are a great
> > >> help.
> > >
> > >Oh yes it's crazy. Look at most of the sysadmin job listings today.
> > >You need to be both a sysadmin and what would traditionally be called a
> > >DBA. The DBA jobs are being absorbed into sysadmin jobs. And Jon is
> > >right, those other skills at least need to be part of your utility belt.
> > >
> > >IMHO many businesses are starting to put impossible expectations on what
> > >they will get out of their sysadmins. There aren't many of us, for
> > >example, that can show proficiency in both Windows and UNIX networks,
> > >but yet that isn't enough anymore. And they will pay for these
> > >unreasonable expectations in the end when they get one guy who can do
> > >everything a little bit but nothing particularly well.
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