[TriLUG] AOL's new email policy

Jason Tower jason at cerient.net
Fri Mar 28 14:19:08 EST 2003


earthlink does the same thing

http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/trilug/Week-of-Mon-20030310/015005.html

jason

On Friday 28 March 2003 14:07, Ken Mink wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 13:20, Kevin Flanagan wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 13:08, Ken Mink wrote:
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> >
> >  Are you sure that they are looking at Dynamic addresses?  I can't
> > really tell how they would know.  I would suspect that they are
> > trying to do reverse lookups, and if you aren't coming from a
> > registered domain they dump it, that's not quite common practice,
> > but not that unusual either.
>
> I'm fairly sure it's the dynamic ip that's causing it. Below is the
> bounce message. My machine passes the open relay tests(does not
> relay) and port 25 is not open to the outside anyway. I am on a
> dynamic ip, so I assume that's the cause.
>
> I don't think tying a domain to my ip will work. If they're going by
> a list that RR has of dynamic ip's, it will still be there even if I
> have a domain.
>
> Even if I get a domain, unless I can get RR to set up a reverse look
> up, the reverse will still resolve to their dynamic name. Unless I'm
> misunderstanding how resolution works, the owner of the IP address
> provides the reverse, if there is one. Owners of the name provide the
> name resolution. No matter how many domains I tie to my IP, RR still
> owns the address and provides the reverse lookup. I could be wrong
> about that.
>
> Ken
>
>
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> ... while talking to mailin-04.mx.aol.com.:
> <<< 550-The IP address you're using to connect to AOL is either open
> to the
> <<< 550-free relaying of e-mail, is serving as an open proxy, or is a
> dynamic
> <<< 550-(residential) IP address.  AOL cannot accept further e-mail
> <<< 550-transactions from your server until either your server is
> closed to free
> <<< 550-relaying/proxy, or your ISP removes your IP address from
> their list of
> <<< 550-dynamic IP addresses. For additional information, please
> visit <<< 550 http://postmaster.info.aol.com.
>
> >   If that's the case, it's easy to fix, register a domain and have
> > something on the air that they can resolve back to.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > > Hello All,
> > > I recently discovered that any mail I sent from home to an AOL
> > > user was bouncing. I use my server in my house as my outgoing
> > > MTA. I'm on RR. The reason for the bounces was that AOL does not
> > > accept mail from a MTA at a dynamic IP address. I've been running
> > > my setup like this for a couple of years and the bounces just
> > > started this week, so I think this is a new policy. I know almost
> > > no one who uses AOL, so it really doesn't matter to me. However,
> > > my wife is an Ebay addict and she's the one that found this
> > > first. So, obviously it is a huge issue.
> > > The simple solutions are to relay through RR's smtp server or to
> > > pony up for a static IP. I was wondering if I could set up my MTA
> > > to relay through RR only mail being set to AOL? I'm using
> > > sendmail now, but I'm not married to it. Also, I know some people
> > > have RR with a static IP, what's the charge for the static
> > > address? I may go that route for other reasons.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Ken
> >
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