[TriLUG] Employed/Unemployed Poll

[Chris Bullock]

I fortunately am employed, but I am, and will probably always look to better 
my career.  I have been on some interviews over the past few months with 
little luck.  I have been targeting the IT field in the healthcare arena.  My 
interviews have stretched from eastern NC to the triangle.  Mostly with very 
large employers >5000 employees.  Although, I consider myself competent in a 
wide diversity of IT, most large non-IT based companies are looking for the 
paper employees.  Everyone now is buying their products ready-made with a 
support contract that a monkey could administer.  I really think that is 
where are the jobs are going.  Why hire programmers if I can buy something 
off the shelf that I just load and it works?  

Most of the companies I have spoken to rely strongly on the big names, Cisco, 
Microsoft, and Oracle.  And unless you are VERY proficient in one of these 
fields there is a line at the door waiting for the same interview.  From what 
I have seen most companies see a name and say "hey, their big, been around a 
long time, so they must be good."  They also want paper proof that you can do 
the job..ie..MCSE, CCNP, CNA.  The best IT professionals I know have had 
little or no formal education in the IT field.  These are the people who 
desire to learn because they like what they do, not just to get a job.  But, 
business managers do not realize this and hire John Q MCSE (no offense to 
MCSEs) and then the manager complains when the IT budget hits 7 digits.

My $.02
chris

On Friday 13 June 2003 08:30 pm, Philip Buckley wrote:
> Judging from the outpouring from the list the last couple of days it sounds
> like finding a full time job right off the bat down there may be a problem
> for me. It got me thinking about getting together a loose confederation of
> people who could work as a sort of distributed contracting type company. I
> have something like that up here right now, a designer, a couple of
> developers, a network guy, a security guy and one guy that basically throws
> us his overflow.
>
> Anyone who might be interested in something like that let me know, maybe
> there is more work and leads then first appears. I've found that having 3
> or 4 other people to bounce ideas off of and work with somehow makes me a
> better worker/producer.
>
> Phil
>
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
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> On 6/13/2003 at 7:05 PM Jill wrote:
> >count me on the "out of work" side ...
> >
> >jill
> >
> >On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 16:30, Philip Buckley wrote:
> >> Just wondering how many people out here on the list are currently out of
> >
> >work?
> >
> >> Phil
> >>
> >>
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