[TriLUG] Xmas wireless question
stan at stanbriggs.com
Wed Dec 31 10:41:58 EST 2003
did you go to linda's funeral?
From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Ray
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 10:32 AM
To: 'Dan'; 'Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list'
Subject: RE: Re: [TriLUG] Xmas wireless question
well, i have a confession. one of my oldest customers, delta dental
plan of nc, has cisco infrastructure throughout and has operated
flawlessly since our initial installation in 1998. there's a big
difference in cisco 924 and 2500, 2600, 3000 and 5000 series products.
my largest customer, tekni-plex, has some 21 plants in many different
countries. they are a fool to cancel the local 1.5 Mbps time warner
roadrunner internet connection and pipe all as/400, smtp and http
traffic across a 64 kbps frac t1 even if the cisco 924 is trash. there
is nothing wrong with having high quality wan connections with backup
for something like a mission-critical as/400.
my newest customer enjoys saving lots of money with their cable modem
and el cheapo router. they do not depend on any connection at all to
conduct their business.
i'll take a cable modem and $60 linksys router any day of the week for
the Internet connection. one may quickly determine the cost/bandwidth
ratio and uptime statistics to assist in deciding what topology is
i surely wouldn't want my business revolving around an Internet
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Monjar [mailto:daniel.monjar at na.biomerieux.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 10:00 AM
> To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list; Jim Ray
> Subject: RE: Re: [TriLUG] Xmas wireless question
> --On Tuesday, December 30, 2003 07:43:38 PM -0500 Jim Ray
> <jim at neuse.net>
> > 0's and 1's don't differentiate biz/home or brand. before
> corporate out
> > of nj laid down the law on their motorola router and frac
> t1 at my largest
> > client, i had roadrunner biz class service at that site with fancy
> > schamncy cisco 924 router. it puked *3* times over 2 years while my
> > residential roadrunner connection with motorola cable modem
> and linksys
> > router kept on ticking.
> > too bad corporate pays ten times as much and gets ten times less
> > bandwidth. ah, the price of control.
> > Mbps, IP, DNS and cost are all that matter. everything
> else can just go
> > home and is pure marketing fluff.
> It all depends on where you stand... I'm responsible for a North
> American network spanning 6 sites that supports over 1600 end users.
> I've used
> Cisco at my core and at the edges for close to 10 years now.
> Out of 20 or
> so key devices I can remember one or two instances of
> 'puking' in that
> time. At that, they were just power supplies and the
> redundant PS kept me
> online while I hot-swapped the bad one.
> Sure, I might pay $2000 for a router that you would choose to spend
> $200 on... but if one of my manufacturing sites goes down for a
> amount of time, and I am speaking in terms of hours, the lose
> could easily
> be in the hundred's of thousand's of dollars. This is both
> in terms of
> lost production capacity and of people sitting on their
> hands because
> they can't get to their applications.
> Equipment cost is a very small part of the equation...
> Daniel Monjar
> IS Manager, Technical Services
> bioMérieux, Inc.
> Durham, NC US
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