[TriLUG] Slightly OT: >> ULB

William Sutton william at trilug.org
Tue Jan 20 12:30:55 EST 2004


Ah, that would make sense.

Just for the record, this puppy started out life as a $1800 dual celeron 
400 system, then became a dual p/// 750 system.  The biggest cost was 
getting Xeons since (at the time) I couldn't find a replacement board 
(Abit VP6).  Of course, now the VP6 can be found on Ebay (weird, huh?), 
but I also now have the Xeons.

By the way, the box is definitely coming to the installfest.

William


On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Brian A. Henning wrote:

> This is just a guess on my part (but it makes sense to me...), but could it
> mean "Ultimate Linux Box?"
> 
> Given that hypothesis, I think the object is to build the best possible
> fully-Linux-compatible machine.
> 
> Personally, you'll not likely find me shelling out $3k for a computer any
> day (unless I happen to make $millions some day)..  I don't have any actual
> figures or statistics, but it seems like computers depreciate worse/faster
> than cars..
> 
> ~B
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org]On
> Behalf Of William Sutton
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:50 AM
> To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Slightly OT: >> ULB
> 
> 
> I'm curious, first as to the definition of "ULB" and second as to what
> you're trying to do here.  However, it's possible to build a box with the
> specs listed.  I personally have a box that contains
> 
> - Iwill DPL-533
>     - http://www.iwillusa.com/products/ProductDetail.asp?vID=152&CID=91
>     - Onbard 10/100/1000 broadcom nic
>     - capable of up to 8 Gb SDRAM
>     - 4x/8x AGP slot
>     - 1 PCI-X/133 slot
>     - 1 PCI-X/100 slot
>     - 1 64 bit PCI/66 slot
>     - 2 32 bit PCI-33 slots
> 
> - Matrox G450 dual vid card
>     - http://matrox.com/mga/products/mill_g450/home.cfm
>     - AGP 4x
>     - 32 Mb RAM
> 
> - 1 GB RAM (2 512 sticks)
> 
> - 2 Xeon 2.0 GHz processors
> 
> - SBLive Value PCI
> 
> - Adaptec 2940 SCSI-2 card
>     - 1 external 68 pin connector
>     - 1 internal 68 pin connector
>     - 1 internal 50 pin connector
> 
> - 2 SCSI HDDs (~ 18 Mb)
> 
> - SCSI CD-ROM (Plextor 12/20 Plex)
> 
> - SCSI CD-R (Plextor PlexWriter 8/12/20)
> 
> - Floppy drive
> 
> - Zip drive
> 
> - Charcoal ATX form factor Antec case
> 
> - Vantec Stealth 520 W power supply (Xeon capable)
> 
> - 2 ViewSonic E90fb 19" Monitors
> 
> - PS/2 keyboard & mouse
> 
> Notes...I haven't kept track of how much it cost to put all this together,
> but it's in excess of $3000 :)  Also, DRI doesn't seem to be supported
> under Linux for the chipset on the mainboard (works fine for the Matrox on
> other boards, just not the Iwill).  The Iwill board variant I have is an
> ATX form factor board, and is guaranteed to run under Red Hat 9 by Iwill.
> The system does run very stably under Red Hat 9, but was prone to constant
> lockups under Gentoo (not sure why).  Gigabit is supported under Linux,
> and shows up on my gigabit hub.  If you're interested in details, I'm
> thinking about bringing it to the installfest.
> 
> William
> 
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, z wrote:
> 
> > On Monday 19 January 2004 12:59 am, Jon Carnes wrote:
> > > As a counter point, I purchased several "quiet" fans from a specialty
> > > site (that specialized in selling quiet components) and they worked
> > > quiet well.  :-)
> > >
> > > You may have also noticed the machine I demo'ed with at the last TriLUG
> > > meeting - noticed it for how quietly it ran.  Jason Tower built that
> > > machine, and it is so quiet, I have to put my hand behind it to make
> > > sure the fans are working (they are!).
> >
> > This makes me think that we ought to pull all of our collective knowledge
> and
> > come up with TriLUG's very own ULB. After reading the ULB article in Linux
> > Journal this year, I was very disappointed to see them go for the "latest
> and
> > greatest with little support" over the "best of the compatible"
> components.
> >
> > The criteria could be defined as follows:
> >
> > 1. Case
> > 	- mid/full tower  or other format
> > 	- quiet
> > 	- atx mb compatible
> > 	- accept full length cards
> > 2. Mother board
> > 	- dual processor
> > 	- intel or amd
> >  	- USB 2.0
> > 	- capable of 4GB ram
> > 	- linux compatible
> > 3. Graphics Card
> > 	- non-proprietary linux drivers available
> > 	- single or dual head
> > 	- min 32MB ram
> > 4. Hard Drives
> > 	- SCSI/ATA Controller
> > 	- minimum 40BGb
> > 5. Sound Card
> > 	- ALSA compatible
> > 6. CD-RW/DVD-RW
> > 	- SCSI/ATAPI
> > 7. Network Card
> > 	- 10/100/1000 Compatible
> > 	- Non-proprietary drivers
> > 8. Keyboard/Mouse
> > 	- USB
> > 	- Wireless
> > 9. Speaker System
> > 	- ?
> > 10. Monitor
> > 	- Minimum 17"
> > 	- Flat Screen
> > 11. Other?
> >
> > Anyone care to try?
> >
> >
> 
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