[TriLUG] Job at Google, in California or Ireland
reginald.reed at gmail.com
Fri Nov 19 14:13:56 EST 2004
Excellent point and valid. In my situation (Cisco Systems) - we
handle this by hiring a broad range of levels. The lower levels
generally have a lot more "not so fun" work than the higher levels.
Culture also plays a large part in this as well. In some companies as
large as Cisco, seeing a manager or high ranking engineer racking
equipment in the lab alongside other employees would be a rarity, but
it happens frequently here. Its all about getting the job done.
Sometimes I rack gear while my engineers are solving complex problems
that are far more important than getting stuff racked.
On 19 Nov 2004 11:53:15 -0500, Jon Carnes <jonc at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 11:35, Reginald Reed wrote:
> > Yes, I agree here - hiring the best and brightest is what *all*
> > companies want to do. In order to do this, you must be attractive to
> > the top talent because:
> > * They are already employed
> > * They are probably being treated well by their current employer
> > (sometimes this isn't the case if the employer is clueless or stupid)
> > * They can get jobs fairly quickly in other places
> > Of course once you have the top talent, you have to retain them, but
> > thats a completely different discussion.
> > Just my nickle as a manager.
> Not to throw a monkey wrench in here, but really most companies don't
> want the best/brightest. They want a wide variety of folks depending on
> the job to be filled.
> You certainly don't want someone who will be bored and quit when you
> have a mindless drudge of a job that must be done. And sometimes merely
> adequate - but with some experience so they can start immediately - is
> exactly what an employer wants.
> When I hire, the key criteria I look for are:
> - plays well with others
> - honest
> - can work without excess management
> - basic ability to solve problems
> - *wants* to work for me...
> I don't really care if they are the top of their class or the brightest
> in the industry; though for some jobs I do want them to have a little
> ambition so that as the job grows they are motivated to grow with it.
> BTW: I always expect to have to train them - no matter what their past
> Jon Carnes
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