[TriLUG] accessing mail.trilug.org, port 993
Brandon L. Newport
bnewport at appws.com
Wed Dec 29 07:00:39 EST 2004
You know that it is against Time Warners policy to allow web and mail
servers and if they find out they may terminate your connection. TW
also actively scans their network for those services. That is why many
of the CharLUG guys have gone to Mindspring instead...same TW lines
different service...they dont care, they have a dont ask dont tell
policy as far as everyone can tell.
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 14:58 -0500, Dave Sorenson wrote:
> Bellsouth is blocking 25 for all new customers and those who "upgrade"
> their existing service. They are blocking inbound and outbound 25 and
> will lie to your face if you ask them about it. This started about 7-8
> months ago. I "upgraded" to extreme and went around and around with
> them for a week before finally getting them to admit the blocking was in
> place. I shifted to Road Runner when I moved and told Bellsouth why I
> would not be transfering the DSL to my new number when I disconnected my
> I understand the need to block outbound 25, I was smart relaying out
> through their SMTP anyway. To block inbound 25 is an attempt to force
> people to pay more for their business class service. Unfortunately, they
> won't sell you business service without a business phone line, which
> they won't sell you if you don't have a "business". Believe me I tried
> to give them my money, they would not take it.
> Oh, and once I figured out the blocking was in place it took me less
> than an hour to figure a way around it using a port forwarding service.
> So it is a pretty ineffectual tactic on BS's part. BTW I specifically
> told them when I signed up and before I did the upgrade that I needed to
> run a web and mail server and was given the OK if I bought the static IP
> address so they can't fall back on the "running servers is not
> permitted..." clause. It doesn't exist in my user agreement either.
> Dave S.
> Alan Porter wrote:
> > Actually, Bellsouth only blocks *some* customers. We use BS DSL
> > at work and at home, and I have never seen port 25 blocked. But
> > I have a friend with BS DSL "extreme" and his is blocked. I
> > suspect that they block either:
> > - everyone who uses DSL extreme
> > - IP's that have given them trouble in the past
> > Still, the issue is not port 25. It's routing to the mail server.
> > Alan
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