[TriLUG] Linux Digital Audo Workstation and Control surfaces

Mon Sep 12 10:50:32 EDT 2005

I was talking to Las lastnight from Ardour. He said the Digi 002 is NOT 
supported. They won't give any help in letting folks like Ardour develop 
for their products. Much like NVidia did with the Linux community.

He's recommending the RME Hammerfall series for connectivity. They just 
work.  As for the control surface, he said as long as they can do 
generic midi mapping, they should work. I'm not  100% on what to do on 
that front.

David McDowell wrote:

>I'm stuck on XP b/c I have the Digi001 rack... it's proprietary PCI
>card and whatever SCSI-like bus it has on it.  Well, stuck may not be
>the exactly correct term, but Pro Tools is really nice.  I have been
>considering upgrading to the Digi002 rack, it's only $800 if I do a
>trade in with my Digi001.  I haven't asked DigiDesign what the cost
>would be for trade in to the non rack Digi002, it is definitely more
>expensive though.  The firewire interface is a really attractive
>option.  Then I can use it with my laptop INside my "quiet room" and
>not have to worry about noise or a 2nd person to be around when I want
>to record and check levels, etc.  Recording in a track is one thing,
>should be fine on a T42... mixing a song is another, I save that for
>my monster workstation.  :)
>
>Roy, I'd love to see your setup when you get it going!
>
>laters,
>David
>
>
>On 9/11/05, Roy Vestal <rvestal at trilug.org> wrote:
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>>I'm building using Planet CCRMA  :) . I'm setting up a studio that I
>>*hopefully* will be able to use part-time as a second business
>>(eventually) as well as record some CD's with/for some folks before. So
>>I want to get it right and not have to purchase up and up on the H/W,
>>ya' know?  Anyway, I'm looking at the Tascam FW-1884 only because of the
>>Firewire bus. I'm also looking at the Tascam US-2400. Granted, I could
>>just go DigiDesign 002R. I can't really afford what I want, Dual G5's
>>with the 32x4x4 Mackie into the Digi 002, so I'm wanting to stay away
>>from the Dark Side too, hence, the happy Tux.
>>
>>Mark Shuford wrote:
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>>>Hi Roy:
>>>
>>>I've not worked with Audacity all that much where I would want to use
>>>automation so I have no idea about it. Ardour will work with any MIDI
>>>MCM capable control mechanism (Midi Control Message). I've not used it
>>>heavily but have verified that the control works with my M-Audio Oxygen
>>>8 keyboard. Just a matter of assigning control channels and doing stuff
>>>on the Ardour end. And Ardour and JACK have both become quite usable
>>>over the last year... used to get lots of crashes.
>>>
>>>So the short answer is yes, if these use MCM output, which I believe I
>>>recall that they do. Now, the Mackie stuff is _nice_ if you've got the
>>>dough, that's not me. The TASCAM stuff is good but I sometimes think a
>>>little overpriced once others have gotten into the market to give some
>>>competition. But if you can afford it I would not hesitate to buy TASCAM
>>>-- I have before, with much satisfaction.
>>>
>>>Behringer had an inexpensive control surface out, a couple of models in
>>>fact. I've been advised their stuff is not up to heavy professional road
>>>use but it looked very usable. M-Audio/MIDIMAN also had a couple of
>>>control surfaces... don't know about these since they got bought-out.
>>>
>>>And I've seen some other companies out there making some pretty
>>>specialized stuff for this use.
>>>
>>>Now all of this was before JACK's MIDI stuff was complete and even
>>>before the MIDI control stuff in Ardour was deemed more than
>>>experimental. I haven't had the spare time to keep up with where all
>>>this stuff has gone, of late, but do have it going on Fedora Core 3 w/
>>>CCRMA's stuff.
>>>
>>>I don't know what your complete setup is...
>>>
>>>Have you looked at CCRMA, Stanford's Center for Computer Research in
>>>Music and Acoustics? That is CCRMA at Home
>>>http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ .  I've been using stuff
>>>they've collected together, which includes Ardour and Audacity and lots
>>>of other tools and JACK, for over a year.
>>>
>>>There's also, I read, a package put together by the Eastman School of
>>>Music. I've not given this a look as yet. Between the two, since they
>>>both have a long history of work in electronic music, I'd think they
>>>both have good packages.
>>>
>>>I first tried the Agnula Project's work but found it not well
>>>integrated. That was over a year ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>CCRMA has a mailing-list. And so does the Linux Audio Developer's group
>>>(LADSPA). And linux-audio-announce at music.columbia.edu at Columbia
>>>University http://music.columbia.edu/ ... and a lot of the individual
>>>packages have their own mailing-lists and such, of course.
>>>
>>>
>>>Do not follow the Dark (XP) side of the Force. You can have thousands of
>>>dollars worth of music recording and production software for the work
>>>you put into it. That and the computer and the sound-card you choose.
>>>
>>>
>>>Well, I guess I've typed much too much too much too much...
>>>
>>>
>>>cheers,
>>>Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:34:53 -0400
>>>Roy Vestal <rvestal at trilug.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
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>>>>I am setting up a Linux DAW and want to run a Control surface for
>>>>Ardour and Audacity. I'm looking at the Tascam US-2400 or FW-1884 with
>>>>an FE-8 expansion. I've googled till my eyes literally hurt. I'm
>>>>trying to find if JackIt/ALSA or something will allow either of these,
>>>>or the Mackie equivalents, to control the software. I don't wanna have
>>>>to go to XP purely because my controller isn't supported.
>>>>
>>>>TIA
>>>>Roy
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