[TriLUG] Lunch Friday?
william at trilug.org
Thu Feb 23 10:16:01 EST 2006
OK, let's consult Wikipedia...
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Tanner Lovelace wrote:
> On 2/23/06, Brian Henning <lugmail at cheetah.dynip.com> wrote:
> > Time for me to pipe up...
> > > Poser. He's not "southern" he's "redneck".
> > How accurately observed. A Southerner will have an accent, but what he says
> > will be grammatically correct (within acceptable margin of error) and quite
> > possibly intelligent. A Redneck will have a similar accent, but what he
> > says is likely to be grammatically horrifying and carry little literary
> > value.
> Exactly what I was trying to say, but said MUCH better. Thanks.
> > Before anyone jumps down my throat about bigotry, let me clarify that this
> > is intentionally focusing on the use of "redneck" as a derogatory term. I'm
> > not talking about who fits into the description, but the description itself.
> > >
> > > > According to Foxworthy, "all y'all" is plural and "all y'all's"
> > > is plural
> > > > posessive.
> > >
> > > There's absolutely no need for "all y'all" since "y'all" is NEVER EVER
> > > singular. It is always plural.
> > A-MEN!* heh. And for the love of Pete (though I don't believe I've seen
> > anyone make this mistake in this thread, I just mention it as a pet peeve of
> > mine) it's y'all, and not ya'll. You + all. Not ya + all.
> Um, Brian, I've gone back and read that 4 times now and I don't see it
> spelled "ya'll" anywhere except where you're complaining about it. You're
> very right that it is, indeed, "y'all", but I think you read over the quote a
> bit too fast...
> > * Actually there is a use for "all y'all," just as there is a use for "all
> > of you." It's used to indicate an entire collection versus a subset. Such
> > as, "y'all over there can carry your luggage, y'all over here can check
> > yours, but all y'all are gonna have to take your shoes off."
> True. "You" in the English language is properly both singular
> and plural, which can be extremely confusing, so "y'all" takes the place
> of the plural version of "you" and can be used in all circumstances that
> a plural you could be used. Brian, I would posit that in your example
> above, the actual phrase in mind was originall "all of y'all" but that the
> "f" was at some point dropped leaving the remaining "o" to basically
> be swallowed in the phrase and therefore shortened to just "all y'all".
> > Heh. Now back to translation lookaside buffer simulators...
> Well, this is sort of on topic, perhaps, maybe, as this entire thread
> is sort of a "lookaside". O:-)
> Tanner Lovelace
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