[TriLUG] Lunch Friday?

[Mark Freeze]

Or you could check Merriam Webster...  http://www.m-w.com

They say it's y'all.

I say that anyone who uses it in written form is just *trying* to be
Southern.

Also, I'm from Birmingham, Alabama and I can tell you that 'tump' is used
daily in some circles.  I would normally hear things like this:

"Hay man, I went out back and tumped over at woodpile yesterdee and I ain't
never seen so many nightcrawlers in my life.  I tolt my brother to gone git
his bucket cause we's goin fishin!  Y'all get my skynard tape so we'll have
sumpn't listen to."

or

"Y'all keep messin wit me and sumbodies gone git kilt."

(Translations will be provided to Carpetbaggers upon request.)

I also know Tanner and William have strong Alabama connections as well and
they could probably make a list of *special* terms and words used in daily
conversation.

Now personally, I don't have ANY Southern accent when I speak.  In fact,
Jason Tower and John Broome BOTH thought I was from New York when they met
me.

Regards,
Mark


On 2/23/06, William Sutton <william at trilug.org> wrote:
>
> OK, let's consult Wikipedia...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%27all
>
> --
> William Sutton
>
>
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Tanner Lovelace wrote:
>
> > On 2/23/06, Brian Henning <lugmail at cheetah.dynip.com> wrote:
> > > Time for me to pipe up...
> > >
> > > > Poser.   He's not "southern" he's "redneck".
> > > How accurately observed.  A Southerner will have an accent, but what
> he says
> > > will be grammatically correct (within acceptable margin of error) and
> quite
> > > possibly intelligent.  A Redneck will have a similar accent, but what
> he
> > > says is likely to be grammatically horrifying and carry little
> literary
> > > value.
> >
> > Exactly what I was trying to say, but said MUCH better.  Thanks.
> >
> > > Before anyone jumps down my throat about bigotry, let me clarify that
> this
> > > is intentionally focusing on the use of "redneck" as a derogatory
> term.  I'm
> > > not talking about who fits into the description, but the description
> itself.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > According to Foxworthy, "all y'all" is plural and "all y'all's"
> > > > is plural
> > > > > posessive.
> > > >
> > > > There's absolutely no need for "all y'all" since "y'all" is NEVER
> EVER
> > > > singular.  It is always plural.
> > >
> > > A-MEN!*  heh.  And for the love of Pete (though I don't believe I've
> seen
> > > anyone make this mistake in this thread, I just mention it as a pet
> peeve of
> > > mine) it's y'all, and not ya'll.  You + all.  Not ya + all.
> >
> > Um, Brian, I've gone back and read that 4 times now and I don't see it
> > spelled "ya'll" anywhere except where you're complaining about
> it.  You're
> > very right that it is, indeed, "y'all", but I think you read over the
> quote a
> > bit too fast...
> >
> > > * Actually there is a use for "all y'all," just as there is a use for
> "all
> > > of you."  It's used to indicate an entire collection versus a
> subset.  Such
> > > as, "y'all over there can carry your luggage, y'all over here can
> check
> > > yours, but all y'all are gonna have to take your shoes off."
> >
> > True.  "You" in the English language is properly both singular
> > and plural, which can be extremely confusing, so "y'all" takes the place
> > of the plural version of "you" and can be used in all circumstances that
> > a plural you could be used.  Brian, I would posit that in your example
> > above, the actual phrase in mind was originall "all of y'all" but that
> the
> > "f" was at some point dropped leaving the remaining "o" to basically
> > be swallowed in the phrase and therefore shortened to just "all y'all".
> >
> > > Heh.  Now back to translation lookaside buffer simulators...
> >
> > Well, this is sort of on topic, perhaps, maybe, as this entire thread
> > is sort of a "lookaside". O:-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tanner
> > --
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> > (fieldless) In fess two roundels in pale, a billet fesswise and an
> > increscent, all sable.
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