[TriLUG] Lunch Friday?

Thu Feb 23 12:41:19 EST 2006

Some things to keep in mind when talking southern...

"hell" and "damn" are for emphasis...sometimes even an entire conversation

"did y'all see that big damn nightcrawler?"
"hell yeah! le's go fishin withit" 

or the common use as seen on #trilug
<someone makes a snide remark>
<reply> "dayyyyyyyyyyyyyamn"
pronounced, roughly, da(held for a bit)-yum

also...ustacould (used to could)...as in...
"I ustacould run a mahl before mah legs got arthritis"

or...a'ight (all right)
"y'anto go an' git some lunch?"
"a'ight"

tr:  you want to go and get some lunch?  all right

another common word:  fixin (fixing...about to, going to)
"I'm fixin ta bust out a can o' whoop-ass all ova ya lazy hide"
"I'm fixin ta fail this class if I cain't git mahself some study help"

also, farasee (not to be confused with Pharisee)
"go two farasees and turn right where the old shed ustabe"
(go two distances as far as you can see, turn right where the old shed 
used to be before they tore the ugly thing down)

Also...common practice is to refer to things where they are/used to be as 
markers...eg., where the old barn used to be, where the cows are (except 
they probably aren't there no more 'cause they sold the land to the quarry 
company), etc...

and then there's all sorts of colorful language that can only be heard to 
understand....watch some NASCAR and listen to some of the things the 
drivers say to express how things are in the car....you can't make this 
stuff up, and I can't remember it right now :)

as some samples...
"this car's gettin all sidewise in turn three like's it was a newborn calf 
on an icy rock"
"I need a spring rubber to tighten this puppy up...she's looser than a 
drunk barmaid on new years"
"uh oh, I just backed this car inta the wall and now it's all tore up"

... no doubt others can fill in other examples.

-- 
William Sutton

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Mark Freeze wrote:

> Or you could check Merriam Webster...  http://www.m-w.com
> 
> They say it's y'all.
> 
> I say that anyone who uses it in written form is just *trying* to be
> Southern.
> 
> Also, I'm from Birmingham, Alabama and I can tell you that 'tump' is used
> daily in some circles.  I would normally hear things like this:
> 
> "Hay man, I went out back and tumped over at woodpile yesterdee and I ain't
> never seen so many nightcrawlers in my life.  I tolt my brother to gone git
> his bucket cause we's goin fishin!  Y'all get my skynard tape so we'll have
> sumpn't listen to."
> 
> or
> 
> "Y'all keep messin wit me and sumbodies gone git kilt."
> 
> (Translations will be provided to Carpetbaggers upon request.)
> 
> I also know Tanner and William have strong Alabama connections as well and
> they could probably make a list of *special* terms and words used in daily
> conversation.
> 
> Now personally, I don't have ANY Southern accent when I speak.  In fact,
> Jason Tower and John Broome BOTH thought I was from New York when they met
> me.
> 
> Regards,
> Mark
> 
> 
> On 2/23/06, William Sutton <william at trilug.org> wrote:
> >
> > OK, let's consult Wikipedia...
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%27all
> >
> > --
> > William Sutton
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Tanner Lovelace wrote:
> >
> > > On 2/23/06, Brian Henning <lugmail at cheetah.dynip.com> wrote:
> > > > Time for me to pipe up...
> > > >
> > > > > Poser.   He's not "southern" he's "redneck".
> > > > How accurately observed.  A Southerner will have an accent, but what
> > he says
> > > > will be grammatically correct (within acceptable margin of error) and
> > quite
> > > > possibly intelligent.  A Redneck will have a similar accent, but what
> > he
> > > > says is likely to be grammatically horrifying and carry little
> > literary
> > > > value.
> > >
> > > Exactly what I was trying to say, but said MUCH better.  Thanks.
> > >
> > > > Before anyone jumps down my throat about bigotry, let me clarify that
> > this
> > > > is intentionally focusing on the use of "redneck" as a derogatory
> > term.  I'm
> > > > not talking about who fits into the description, but the description
> > itself.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > According to Foxworthy, "all y'all" is plural and "all y'all's"
> > > > > is plural
> > > > > > posessive.
> > > > >
> > > > > There's absolutely no need for "all y'all" since "y'all" is NEVER
> > EVER
> > > > > singular.  It is always plural.
> > > >
> > > > A-MEN!*  heh.  And for the love of Pete (though I don't believe I've
> > seen
> > > > anyone make this mistake in this thread, I just mention it as a pet
> > peeve of
> > > > mine) it's y'all, and not ya'll.  You + all.  Not ya + all.
> > >
> > > Um, Brian, I've gone back and read that 4 times now and I don't see it
> > > spelled "ya'll" anywhere except where you're complaining about
> > it.  You're
> > > very right that it is, indeed, "y'all", but I think you read over the
> > quote a
> > > bit too fast...
> > >
> > > > * Actually there is a use for "all y'all," just as there is a use for
> > "all
> > > > of you."  It's used to indicate an entire collection versus a
> > subset.  Such
> > > > as, "y'all over there can carry your luggage, y'all over here can
> > check
> > > > yours, but all y'all are gonna have to take your shoes off."
> > >
> > > True.  "You" in the English language is properly both singular
> > > and plural, which can be extremely confusing, so "y'all" takes the place
> > > of the plural version of "you" and can be used in all circumstances that
> > > a plural you could be used.  Brian, I would posit that in your example
> > > above, the actual phrase in mind was originall "all of y'all" but that
> > the
> > > "f" was at some point dropped leaving the remaining "o" to basically
> > > be swallowed in the phrase and therefore shortened to just "all y'all".
> > >
> > > > Heh.  Now back to translation lookaside buffer simulators...
> > >
> > > Well, this is sort of on topic, perhaps, maybe, as this entire thread
> > > is sort of a "lookaside". O:-)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Tanner
> > > --
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> > > clubjuggler at gmail dot com
> > > http://wtl.wayfarer.org/
> > > (fieldless) In fess two roundels in pale, a billet fesswise and an
> > > increscent, all sable.
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