[TriLUG] machine comparing... possibly OT
Glenn_Hennessee at ncsu.edu
Thu Jul 13 07:54:11 EDT 2006
Check out InstallRite at http://www.epsilonsquared.com/ for windows.
It will watch what is happening when a program is installed and give you
a report of what changed in the registry, what files were added, etc.
Kevin Flanagan wrote:
> That's my point, if you have a Virtual Machine with everything installed
> then snapshot it off to DVD you don't ever reinstall the software. So
> long as you only need the one copy running at a time you won't need to
> install the software again.
> The only catch I see with this, so far, is hardware support, if it's
> standard serial, parallel, or USB you should do fine, if it's some
> special card, you may have a challenge there.
> Barry Gaskins wrote:
>> I dont think that any of these solutions are going to work. The
>> is building a magic number using things that will be different on each
>> of hardware. Things like the mac address of the ethernet card, the bios
>> version number, the checksum from the ROM, ... and who knows what
>> else. I am
>> willing to bet that even if you figure out EXACTLY what changed on the
>> machine from before you install the key and after you install the key,
>> the same thing on a different piece of hardware will not make the program
>> work. The same thing will probably be true with a virtual machine (mac
>> address on the ethernet will still be different etc...)
>> It might work if you need to reinstall the software on the exact same
>> hardware, but if your hardware dies then you will be out of luck.
>> - Barry Gaskins
>> On 7/12/06, Kevin Flanagan <kevin at flanagannc.net> wrote:
>>> Have you looked at a Virtual Machine solution? You could snapshot it
>>> every now and then, if the hardware fails, just bring the new virtual
>>> machine up on a new server.
>>> David McDowell wrote:
>>> > Let me elaborate... I have a WinXP system (yup, this might be the OT
>>> > part) which has software on it that interfaces with our keycard
>>> > system. This software is ours, we own it. However, when you install
>>> > the software, somewhere, someplace there is a "Reference Code" created
>>> > (a different one each time you install the product) and you must call
>>> > the software vendor to have them put that code into their keygen to
>>> > get your "License Key" so that your software operates as registered.
>>> > In the past, we have called tech support and they have given us this
>>> > without question... well, today, as we moved this software to a new
>>> > piece of hardware... we are approached with this situation again, BUT
>>> > the software vendor now claims they will only generate license keys if
>>> > you maintain a $560/yr support contract with them (or a per incident
>>> > fee)... what crap I say!!!
>>> > So, maybe there is an open source tool for this... maybe not, but my
>>> > question comes down to this. We OWN this piece of software. If I
>>> > choose to pay the per incident fee or at least pickup a contact for 1
>>> > year, I want to be able to do this. I want to take a snapshot of the
>>> > machine PRIOR to entering in the license key, then I want a snapshot
>>> > of the machine AFTER entering the license key. I want something to
>>> > compare these snapshots and tell me every file and every registry
>>> > entry which has changed. My hope is that I will discover where their
>>> > hidden changes are occurring and if I have to re-install this software
>>> > again, I will be able to force an old "Reference Code" in place of the
>>> > automatically generated one by either replacing files or registry
>>> > entries and then enter the License Key which I know works for that
>>> > Reference Code OR simple replace all the files/reg entries that exist
>>> > AFTER the license key has been given such that the code and key are in
>>> > concurrance together.
>>> > At any rate, this really upsets me what this vendor is doing. We OWN
>>> > the piece of software and they are holding us hostage by forcing us to
>>> > pay to get a new license key just b/c we had to re-install the product
>>> > on a new machine (the old one crashed). I know this kind of tool must
>>> > exist as virus, worm and spyware companies must use them to determine
>>> > what a particular item does to a system. I'm hoping something exist
>>> > in the FOSS world that can help me even though this system is WinXP
>>> > and would need files and the registry snapshot and compared.
>>> > Thanks!!
>>> > David McD
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