[TriLUG] Interesting issue

Cristóbal Palmer cristobalpalmer at gmail.com
Tue Feb 20 00:13:34 EST 2007


+1

On 2/19/07, Mark Freeze <mfreeze at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the nomination Jon.  I'll gladly issue an RTFM to anyone
> who asks things that I consider to be a dumb and obvious questions.
> However, from some of my own posts you might see that I may be the one
> asking the dumb and obvious question!  (I don't know if I have the
> knowledge base that some of you do to know when a question is dumb and
> when it is not.)
>
> So, if I could be so bold as to change my title, I prefer:
>
> Prince of the SBAA
>
> My mission, which I would gladly accept, would be to interject my
> tagline, "Stop Being An A####le." into conversations where one party
> or another has gotten out of hand and is posting rude comments about
> others lack of knowledge.
>
> If that's acceptable, then I accept!
>
> Regards,
> Mark.
>
>
> On 2/19/07, jonc at nc.rr.com <jonc at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> > Good point!
> >
> > Mark, by the power invested in me (by your response!) I hereby dub thee:
> >  Prince of the RTFM
> >
> > Your mission, should you incline to take it, is to remind folks who
> > don't get any responses from the list that they should Read The Fine
> > Manuals.
> >
> > Enjoy your new post and responsibilities :-)
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mark Freeze <mfreeze at gmail.com>
> > Date: Saturday, February 17, 2007 5:33 pm
> > Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Interesting issue
> > To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list <trilug at trilug.org>
> >
> > > I'd much rather receive an "RTFM" response to a question rather
> > > than silence.
> > >
> > > IMHO,the crickets gives the user two possible answers:
> > >
> > > 1. The problem is too simple for anyone to bother answering.
> > > 2. The problem is too complex and no one knows the answer.
> > >
> > > But more importantly, it really says that no one in the LUG cares
> > > enough to even say, "Wow this is a big problem." or "Wow, you're a
> > > dumba@#"
> > >
> > > I know I've asked plenty of stupid questions in my time. And, I'm
> > > really glad that people took the time to answer them. (Or at least
> > > tell me where to look.)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Mark.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 16 Feb 2007 15:30:26 -0500, jonc <jonc at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > The user didn't do a lot of troubleshooting (at least that was
> > > relayed> in the message).  Most folks aren't going to simply jump
> > > in and suggest
> > > > things when the user gives the appearance of being too clueless to
> > > > effect any of the suggestions... Unless the error is specific
> > > enough or
> > > > common enough to have a stock solution.
> > > >
> > > > The sounds of the crickets following that message tells you a great
> > > > deal.
> > > >  1) Its not a commonly found problem
> > > >  2) If it's not a commonly found problem, then a default install
> > > should> work just fine.  Where is your install distinct and
> > > different?  What
> > > > pieces did you touch?
> > > >
> > > > >From the general description it could be a lot of things. From
> > > > overzealous security, to squirrelmail config problems. Without some
> > > > basic troubleshooting on the front-end, you are not going to be
> > > able to
> > > > isolate and conquer the issue.
> > > >
> > > > Sometimes the nicest form of criticism an Open Source community
> > > can give
> > > > someone is silence.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 14:20, Brian McCullough wrote:
> > > > > A few days ago, I passed on a message from a friend, asking
> > > about some
> > > > > SquirrelMail issues.  I thought that we had some gurus in the
> > > group,> > even on that subject, but haven't seen anything in reply
> > > to that
> > > > > message.  Is it just "impossible" or can anyone offer him any
> > > > > suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Brian
> > > >
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Cristóbal M. Palmer
UNC-CH SILS Student -- ils.unc.edu/~cmpalmer
TriLUG Vice Chair
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