[TriLUG] OT: your RTP commute? my office is relocating to RTP from Cary

David McDowell turnpike420 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 8 09:22:30 EST 2007


omg... wow, Superman II memories... "kneel before Zod!"

On 3/8/07, jason at monsterjam.org <jason at monsterjam.org> wrote:
> http://www.zod2008.com/
>
> >
> > Vote Elfick for president in 2012! (or maybe 2016 depending on how I
> > feel)
> >
> > On Mar 8, 2007, at 1:41 AM, Jeremy Portzer wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >I agree with David, the proximate cause can be blamed squarely on
> > >the TTA
> > >- they failed to get their ducks in a row in time, before the Federal
> > >Transit Administration changed the rules for federal funding.
> > >
> > >However, in a larger scope, many feel the Bush administration (not to
> > >mention the little detail called Congress) should be increasing the
> > >overall funds made available for transit projects.  The reason the
> > >FTA has
> > >made the rules harsher is because there is a limited pot of money
> > >and they
> > >must dole it out fairly.  Charlotte's project was approved earlier
> > >and is
> > >more cost-effective according to the rules.  I think the FTA is
> > >doing a
> > >good job of being fair about it - keep in mind that even northern
> > >Virginia
> > >can't find a way around the rules as they pertain to the Metro's
> > >westward
> > >expansion (Silver Line project).  That project had to make major
> > >changes -
> > >ugly elevated track instead of a tunnel - because of the FTA
> > >cost-effectiveness rules.
> > >
> > >There are many cities getting in the game for limited federal transit
> > >funds.  Other regions realized before the Triangle did that public
> > >transit
> > >is energy efficient and worth spending money on it, and frankly, other
> > >areas have better urban planning that allows such a project to be cost
> > >effective.  But this is probably oversimplifying.
> > >
> > >This is way way OT.  I don't think the trains even would run Linux :(
> > >Maybe the internetworkers list is a place this could be discussed
> > >if folks
> > >want to continue.
> > >
> > >--Jeremy
> > >
> > >On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, David McDowell wrote:
> > >
> > >>Magnus, Tom Ed is right in at least one way, b/c federal funding has
> > >>been granted to the Charlotte project, which irks the piss out of me.
> > >>RALEIGH is the capitol city, yo respect us, you damn federal
> > >>lackies!!
> > >> Oh, but Charlotte is graced with more banking and taller buildings
> > >>than we are... whoooptee.  OK, ranting sorry.  The point is, the TTA
> > >>was slow... too slow by the feds terms.  The feds up'd the req's
> > >>before TTA got their stuff turned in making it even more difficult
> > >>for
> > >>TTA to meet the fed req's, thus failure to get the federal part of
> > >>the
> > >>funding needed for the project.  Of course, I have my own ideas about
> > >>how completely screwed up TTA's phase I was conceived.  Who links 2
> > >>central downtowns???  Rail is to move people from the outside in and
> > >>back out again... or around, not between.  For example, why in hell
> > >>would someone in downtown Raleigh wanna just "hop on the train" to go
> > >>to a bar in Durham when there are gobs in Raleigh?
> > >>
> > >>anyway, this thread is going so far off from my office location.  At
> > >>least I can say the TTA's rail plan was it is/was would have gone
> > >>past
> > >>NCSU (my station) to the huge Miami (RTP Central) station which would
> > >>have actually been perfect for this upcoming office move.  Ah well.
> > >>:(
> > >>
> > >>thanks jmack for your drive time estimates.  Today I tried
> > >>something a
> > >>little more creative... Tryon -> Cary Parkway -> 54 as a test run...
> > >>not bad... but no clue what it will be like during rush hour.  *sigh*
> > >>I love my condo and how cheap it is.  I don't wanna move!!
> > >>
> > >>later folks!
> > >>David
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On 3/7/07, Magnus <magnus at trilug.org> wrote:
> > >>>Tom Ed White wrote:
> > >>>>The denial of funding can be traced directly to our democratically
> > >>>>elected president, George W. Bush.
> > >>>
> > >>>Hmmm I'm no fan of the talking monkey myself but in all fairness
> > >>>he can
> > >>>hardly be blamed for what is entirely a local/state matter.
> > >>>There is no
> > >>>reason that taxpayers in South Dakota should foot the bill for a
> > >>>train
> > >>>in Raleigh.
> > >>>
> > >>>The local guys are the ones you should be grabbing by the ears and
> > >>>demanding better answers from.  Right on up to the governor.
> > >>>
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