[TriLUG] Routing/router questions from a network wannabe :-)

Mon Mar 12 10:18:46 EDT 2007

There are definitely USB devices out there for MacBooks and similar
machines without PCMCIA/ExpressCard slots.  Also remember desktop
machines generally don't have those type of slots as well.  USB
solutions exist for both EVDO and the competing standard that is
normally paired with GSM services, HSDPA (which is very ironic since
HSDPA is actually a CDMA technology!).

The Cisco/Linksys device can be found here:

http://powervision.sprint.com/mobilebroadband/devices/linksysrouter.html

Based on the above URL I am assuming that Sprint ToS is much more
techie friendly since they are advertising/selling the router and
advertise its multi-user capability.  I think this based on Sprint's
desire to grab as much marketshare with their EVDO/EVDO RevA service
and then transition them to the WiMax service they are turning up
eventually?

--Reggie

On 3/12/07, J.C. Jones <jonesjc at intrex.net> wrote:
> Reggie,
>
> Thanks again for the info. It appears that Verizon does dump some
> customers because of high levels of use.
>
> I am not familiar with MacBooks. I didn't realize that it didn't include
> a pcmcia/expresscard. Is there a dongle/adapter that could convert an
> evdo card to usb/cat5 connection to the Macbook or is one of these
> routers the only way to add an evdo card? I assume that manufacturers of
> the mobile evdo routers have done their homework on the number of
> macbooks and similar devices on the market to make it a viable
> marketable item, especially with as many as 4 competing manufacturers
> out there.
>
> By the way, could you direct me to Cisco's product page for their evdo
> router?
>
> Again, thanks for your comments. Have a good week.
>
> jcj
>
> Reginald Reed wrote:
>
> > I'm well aware of the different products out there that enable users
> > to break the ToS, my company (Cisco) even makes one.  Even though
> > these devices can enable several users to use a single connection,
> > note that you don't *have* to use it that way.  You can easily justify
> > the devices by using it to connect to a "card" from a machine that
> > doesn't have a PCMCIA/Expresscard slot, like my MacBook.
> >
> > Either way, it was more of a public service announcement type of
> > thing.  Verizon seems to be the pickiest provider about enforcing
> > their ToS:
> >
> > http://irv2.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9156094452/m/4041074103/inc/1
> >
> > http://www.evdoforums.com/thread1004.html
> >
> > --Reggie
> >
> > On 3/11/07, J.C. Jones <jonesjc at intrex.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Reginald,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your comment. It is interesting to note that there are
> >> numerous devices being marketed to do just what I want to do. Today I
> >> did some googling  on evdo mobile routers.
> >>
> >> At the top of the google list was aMB8000 bundle with special high gain
> >> antenna, router, and  a verizon evdo card, all for 1295.00
> >> Others I have found that do the same thing that sell for less:
> >> 1. Kyocera KR1 Mobile Router selling on kyocera's website for 229
> >> dollars.
> >> 2. The D-Link 3G Mobile Router DIR-450  selling for 199.99 at Best Buy
> >>
> >> I  am certain there is at least one more out there, but I don't remember
> >> it's maker or model number etc.
> >>
> >> I guess I will continue on with the project and only "experiment"
> >> with it...
> >>
> >> jcj
> >>
> >> Reginald Reed wrote:
> >>
> >> > Not to be the party pooper in the bunch, but this usage of Verizon's
> >> > EVDO service is against the terms of service.
> >> >
> >> > On 3/11/07, Kevin Flanagan <kevin at flanagannc.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> There's also the Small Business server route, www.clarkconnect.org
> >> will
> >> >> provide much more than a router/firewall, mail, file services, web
> >> >> server, etc.  Depends on your need.
> >> >>
> >> >> J.C. Jones wrote:
> >> >> > All,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have a Verizon Broadband card ( EVDO ) that works great with
> >> Ubuntu,
> >> >> > Red Hat 9.0, and Fedora Core 5 on my laptop. I would like to
> >> create a
> >> >> > system within my laptop that would hook to the internet through the
> >> >> EVDO
> >> >> > card ( in the pc/pcmcia card slot on my laptop ) and use a usb-
> >> >> ethernet
> >> >> > adapter to provide a internet connection to other users within a
> >> small
> >> >> > network.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since these are two different networks (usb-ethernet is
> >> 192.168.x.x.
> >> >> > where EVDO is dynamically assigned IP address from verizon ) and
> >> >> > different types of adapters ( usb-ethernet is eth0 and the EVDO
> >> >> card is
> >> >> > ppp0 ) ,  I don't know how to pass traffice from one adapter to the
> >> >> other.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Can someone point me to a plain and SIMPLE instruction set or howto
> >> >> that
> >> >> > would enlighten me on  what to do?? I am not sure whether I
> >> should be
> >> >> > working with the route tables, iptables, a combination of the two
> >> >> --- Or
> >> >> > something totally different.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I would prefer using Fedora Core 5 for this project, but if it is
> >> >> easier
> >> >> > to accomplish with something different, I am game.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks for your input.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > jcj
> >> >> >
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