[TriLUG] Code of Conduct

[J.C. Jones]

Magnus and all,

you wrote --- " It is particularly troubling to me that at least one of 
the people who will be given teeth by this CoC is likely guilty of 
provoking quite a lot of trouble himself."

There have been times when answers to my questions on the list were 
either rude or bordering on a flame, but like most adults -- I got over 
it.  It might have been  the same person that you are referring to.

The list is an invaluable source of information for me.( I don't 
consider myself to be an expert on Linux, networking, etc, but I want to 
learn )  I would hate to see it further degraded with numerous 
references to CoC. ( or maybe even threats, cease & desist ORDERS ). It 
just seems so out of place for Trilug.

I, personally, don't see where this code of conduct is going to be useful.

jcj

Magnus wrote:

>William Sutton wrote:
>  
>
>>So what exactly are the problems we're trying to address?  apparently I 
>>didn't understand why this is necessary.
>>    
>>
>
>It seems rather personal and subjective at this point.  Some of the
>people most vocally in favor of adjusting behaviors here, either through
>CoC or other means, are the same ones as I would perceive as having the
>most childish behavior patterns on the mailing list and IRC channel.
>
>It is particularly troubling to me that at least one of the people who
>will be given teeth by this CoC is likely guilty of provoking quite a
>lot of trouble himself.
>
>I am not unaware of my own reputation in this group, whether earned or
>blown out of proportion by word of mouth.  I've always been strongly of
>the opinion that TriLUG should honor its roots and continue to police
>itself.  This is *not* a professional organization, nor was it ever
>meant to be.  This is a community of enthusiasts, and as such we are
>enthusiastic about our opinions.
>
>The CoC itself is a very subjective document, evidenced by one of its
>most vocal supporters being one of the most trollish provocateurs in
>TriLUG.  And as borish as I find that behavior, I wouldn't want to eject
>such a person from the LUG when they can continue to contribute positive
>things to the LUG community as well.
>
>Can you imagine what the FOSS community would be if a CoC were adopted
>by projects such as OpenBSD?  It would set UNIX/Linux security back 10
>years.  Do you think Linux Torvalds would be silenced by a CoC?
>
>It works for Ubuntu.  Ubuntu started out with this sort of culture.
>TriLUG has a longer history with a much different (and much more
>diverse) culture that should be preserved, warts and all.
>  
>

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