[TriLUG] Code of Conduct

J.C. Jones jonesjc at intrex.net
Mon Aug 13 14:18:24 EDT 2007



James Olin Oden wrote:  Mature people need very few rules.  Children 
need more.  A begininer at anything must pay attention to the forms, but 
one who has grasped a matter no longer considers them.

Maybe all we need are GUIDELINES :-)

jcj

>On 8/13/07, Kevin Otte <nivex at nivex.net> wrote:
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>>James Olin Oden wrote:
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>>>Not really.  You can just say, "Your out of line".  You don't need a
>>>documente to reference.  Repeated infractions can incur banishment, as
>>>the person clearly doesn't take the health of the community seriously.
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>>But to what rule do you refer as justification for banishment?
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>Don't need too, IMO.
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>>started a LUG at my alma mater, and we had a rather nasty flame war in
>>the forums.  Some of the participants in this flamewar were officers of
>>the organization.  It was so bad I felt justified as the duly elected
>>president of the organization to shut down the forums for a couple days
>>to try and get things to cool off.  Rather than everyone take a deep
>>breath, their ire was immediately directed toward me.  I was informed
>>that I had no such authority.  I attempted to argue my side based on our
>> rather weak constitution and failed.  Realizing I had no ability to
>>maintain order, I promptly resigned.
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>Essentially, you had a group of people that were not worth your time.
>Even if your constitution was strong it would not have mattered (such
>is the fallacy of democracy...the mob rules).
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>>This LUG is a very strong group with a long and proud history which I
>>have been privileged to be a brief part of.  It is only now that we
>>start to see some cracks.  This is not a sign of total failure, rather a
>>sign that it's time for a little maintenance.  A chance to patch the
>>hole *before* it consumes us.
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>>I feel the CoC is a good idea.  It, as others have pointed out, lays out
>>and reinforces the already existing "gentlemen's agreement" we all
>>supposedly have.  As such, I fail to see why anyone is opposed to having
>>it written down.
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>Because rules make more rules when people don't take them to heart.
>And soon enough you have "judges" that don't understand the principles
>that the rules were based on, making decisions.  If you keep things
>very simple people tend to not loose focus on what is really
>important.
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>Mature people need very few rules.  Children need more.  A begininer
>at anything must pay attention to the forms, but one who has grasped a
>matter no longer considers them.  If its true that you have a group of
>childish individuals then maybe you need the rules, but my guess is
>its been a long time since they needed to be forced to live without
>them.
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>Cheers...james
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