[TriLUG] TWC latency issues

John Broome jbroome at gmail.com
Tue Aug 14 08:42:28 EDT 2007


They're the communication company that is preferred in the Heritage
Wake Forest neighborhood and some businesses in wakefield.

http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/stories/2001/11/12/newscolumn1.html
and
http://ctc.net/

On 8/14/07, Tim Jowers <timjowers at gmail.com> wrote:
> Who is CTC?
>
>
> On 8/13/07, Neil L. Little <nllittle at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes they want you to call so they can send in their customer engineer
> > and pitch fiber.
> >
> > They told us that their "node" was full and were not planning on
> > building out another.
> > As it turned out the office building we were moving into was contracted
> > with CTC.
> >
> > Ended up with a 5mbps bridged DSL connection (tests out at 6.8mbps) and
> > a block of 6 static
> > IPs for much less than we would have spent going with TWC.
> >
> > Neil Little, WA4AZL
> > JARS Forever!!
> >
> >
> > OlsonE at aosa.army.mil wrote:
> > > I don't think so ...but I've looked at TW Business Class as a viable
> > > solution to my bandwidth being so pi** poor. I don't mind paying a
> > > little more, but they better pony up the service.
> > >
> > > How is it cost-wise? I've tried to get info off their website, but they
> > > want you to "call".
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
> > > Behalf Of J.C. Jones
> > > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 9:02 AM
> > > To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
> > > Subject: Re: [TriLUG] TWC latency issues
> > >
> > > Is there a distinction between Time-Warner Business Class and Road
> > > Runner mentioned in this thread. I am at present in negotiation with
> > > Time Warner Business class and would like to know if any of this thread
> > > really relates to that service.
> > >
> > > jcj
> > >
> > > Thomas wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Near Crossroads, Cary (for High Speed online) Download - 4314 kbps
> > >> Upload   - 121 kbps
> > >>
> > >> *TWC package as advertised*
> > >>
> > >> Road Runner Turbo ($44.95)
> > >> Download - upto 8000 kbps
> > >> Upload   - upto 512 kbps
> > >>
> > >> Road Runner High Speed online ($34.95)
> > >> Download - 5000 kbps
> > >> Upload   - 384 kbps
> > >>
> > >> Road Runner Lite ($29.95)
> > >> Download - 1500 kbps
> > >> Upload   - 256 kbps
> > >>
> > >> Road Runner Lite 768 ($24.95)
> > >> Download - 768 kbps
> > >> Upload   - 128 kbps
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 8/11/07, Reginald Reed <reginald.reed at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Morrisville on the 8M down/512K up service:
> > >>>
> > >>> 7146 kbps down
> > >>> 484 kbps down
> > >>>
> > >>> On 8/10/07, Greg Brown <gwbrown1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> A new record low on the NC Outer Banks:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2654k down
> > >>>> 34k up
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yes, that is NOT a typo: 34k up.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 8/10/07, Neil L. Little <nllittle at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> NC is currently 16th in the US as far as bandwidth goes
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 73,
> > >>>>> Neil Little, WA4AZL
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Tim Jowers wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> I believe the toastnet and other download servers to be gamed
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> (cached).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>> I
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> regularly get 600K download speed (peak starts around 1.5Mb and
> > >>>>>> then
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> drops
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> after 10 seconds or so. I very often get 10-20 seconds page load
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> latency.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Install the FF plugin to see how long each page takes to load.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I've looked very hard for an alternative. I tried BellSouth for a
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> few
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>> months
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> but saw zero improvements in upload plus they block SMTP port.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> Download
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>> was
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> about the same as well. Argh! The next thing I've found (A DSL
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> reseller
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>> no
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> doubt) is $115/month. AT&T's contractor, Team Net, laid fiber down
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> my
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>> street
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> probably for the Uverse service they are rolling out next year but
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> the
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>> only
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> thing they are selling now is a resell of DSL or cable.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>    Case in short, this in supposed to be some special high tech
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> center
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>> but
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> the Internet bandwidths and performance are a joke. No fiber to the
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> home
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>> as
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> one would expect. If NC, RTP, or Raleigh want to be known for being
> > >>>>>>
> > >
> > >
> > >>>>>> technologically savvy and/or progressive then its time to get off
> > >>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> our
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> butts and lay some fiber. Due to the good-ole-boy system normally
> > >>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> place
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> to get permits, one probably needs to partner with the cities. My
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> proposal
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> is to lay it down in one or two select areas here to show the
> > >>>>>> state/city/area has some commitment to operating in a modern
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> networking
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> environment. It's not like we will be breaking any ground here...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> FTTH
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>> is
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> common elsewhere in the world. I'm tired of being in a technology
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> backwater
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> WRT networking.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> IMO,
> > >>>>>> TimJowers
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 8/9/07, OlsonE at aosa.army.mil <OlsonE at aosa.army.mil> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Can you host a website from your house with Earthlink (port 80). I
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >> was
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>> told by the RR dudes, I could, and if the port was blocked, use a
> > >>>>>>> different one.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org]
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >> On
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Magnus
> > >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 1:53 PM
> > >>>>>>> To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] TWC latency issues
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> OlsonE at aosa.army.mil wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Is their b/w comparable? Currently, I have RR Premium (which
> > >>>>>>>> isn't
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> so
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>>> "premium").
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The offerings are, IIRC, identical.  I even have a static IP (with
> > >>>>>>> surcharge) and no filtered inbound ports.  Outbound port 25 is
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>> filtered,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> forcing me to use Earthlink as a relay, but that has been working
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >> fine
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>> the last couple of years for me.
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