[TriLUG] time warner business class

Tim Jowers timjowers at gmail.com
Thu Nov 29 09:00:59 EST 2007


Below are some traceroutes. The first three are good and what one
would want. The later is several months back but shows the random
delays. Maybe these are fixed. I'll try to look for the test tool
mentioned or write something to run tests over a 24 hour period.

The current time is:  8:50:02.19

Through a VPN:
tracert www.trilug.org

Tracing route to pilot.trilug.org [64.244.27.136]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    29 ms    30 ms    30 ms  asqvpn2.mci.com [166.44.240.2]
  2    29 ms    29 ms    29 ms  asqer1-vlan111.mcilink.com [166.44.243.27]
  3    28 ms    30 ms    31 ms  asqir2-vlan41.mcilink.com [199.249.28.193]
  4    30 ms    28 ms    30 ms  asqir1-vlan22.mcilink.com [192.135.72.201]
  5    28 ms    28 ms    27 ms  GigabitEthernet1-0.GW2.IAD5.ALTER.NET
[137.39.253.177]
  6    29 ms    30 ms    31 ms  0.so-3-0-0.CL1.IAD5.ALTER.NET [152.63.34.186]
  7    39 ms    39 ms    38 ms  0.so-4-0-2.XL1.RDU1.ALTER.NET [152.63.27.57]
  8    43 ms    49 ms    39 ms  123.ATM7-0.GW7.RDU1.ALTER.NET [152.63.37.133]
  9    40 ms    38 ms    39 ms  sungard-gw.customer.alter.net [63.65.185.70]
 10    39 ms    50 ms    41 ms  dhmir1-vl-2.sgns.net [64.244.31.43]
 11    38 ms    38 ms    39 ms  pilot.trilug.org [64.244.27.136]

Trace complete.

Through the residential network:
tracert www.trilug.org

Tracing route to pilot.trilug.org [64.244.27.136]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    12 ms    12 ms     8 ms  cpe-075-189-144-001.nc.res.rr.com [75.189.144.1]
  3    10 ms     8 ms     7 ms  gig2-0-2.rlghncj-rtr4.nc.rr.com [24.25.2.42]
  4    11 ms    10 ms    12 ms  pos1-2.rlghnca-rtr1.nc.rr.com [24.25.0.94]
  5     9 ms    12 ms    10 ms
gig2-3-0.rlghncrdc-pop1.southeast.rr.com [24.93.64.164]
  6    18 ms    17 ms    18 ms
ge-0-3-0.chrlncsa-rtr6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.64.173]
  7    17 ms    18 ms    15 ms  pop1-cha-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.132.33]
  8    14 ms    17 ms    17 ms  bb1-cha-P3-0.atdn.net [66.185.138.64]
  9    20 ms    21 ms    20 ms  bb1-atm-P6-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.182]
 10    20 ms    20 ms    22 ms  pop2-atm-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.147.209]
 11    82 ms   145 ms   113 ms  0.so-2-0-0.BR1.ATL4.ALTER.NET [204.255.169.77]
 12    22 ms    22 ms    21 ms  0.so-1-1-0.XT2.ATL4.ALTER.NET [152.63.86.174]
 13    35 ms    35 ms    34 ms  0.so-4-0-3.XL2.RDU1.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.94]
 14    36 ms    35 ms    37 ms  124.ATM7-0.GW7.RDU1.ALTER.NET [152.63.37.145]
 15    36 ms    47 ms    36 ms  sungard-gw.customer.alter.net [63.65.185.70]
 16    34 ms    34 ms    35 ms  dhmir1-vl-2.sgns.net [64.244.31.43]
 17    34 ms    33 ms    35 ms  pilot.trilug.org [64.244.27.136]

Trace complete.

Through residential network:
]# traceroute www.trilug.org
traceroute to pilot.trilug.org (64.244.27.136), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.456 ms  0.578 ms  0.355 ms
 2  cpe-075-189-144-001.nc.res.rr.com (75.189.144.1)  9.397 ms  9.758
ms  9.362 ms
 3  gig2-0-2.rlghncj-rtr4.nc.rr.com (24.25.2.42)  8.123 ms  9.114 ms  8.303 ms
 4  pos1-2.rlghnca-rtr1.nc.rr.com (24.25.0.94)  8.919 ms  11.065 ms  8.189 ms
 5  gig2-3-0.rlghncrdc-pop1.southeast.rr.com (24.93.64.164)  9.321 ms
12.139 ms  22.828 ms
 6  ge-0-3-0.chrlncsa-rtr6.southeast.rr.com (24.93.64.173)  14.060 ms
ge-1-3-0.chrlncpop-rtr1.southeast.rr.com (24.93.64.169)  16.901 ms
16.721 ms
 7  pop1-cha-P1-0.atdn.net (66.185.132.33)  18.019 ms  17.868 ms
pop1-cha-P7-0.atdn.net (66.185.138.69)  15.990 ms
 8  bb1-cha-P3-0.atdn.net (66.185.138.64)  17.929 ms  17.564 ms  18.114 ms
     MPLS Label=301 CoS=5 TTL=1 S=0
 9  bb1-atm-P6-0.atdn.net (66.185.152.182)  21.082 ms  21.877 ms  22.934 ms
     MPLS Label=171 CoS=5 TTL=1 S=0
10  pop2-atm-P1-0.atdn.net (66.185.147.209)  32.649 ms  21.655 ms  21.758 ms
11  0.so-2-0-0.BR1.ATL4.ALTER.NET (204.255.169.77)  23.718 ms  21.071
ms  22.327 ms
12  0.so-1-1-0.XT1.ATL4.ALTER.NET (152.63.86.170)  22.445 ms
0.so-1-1-0.XT2.ATL4.ALTER.NET (152.63.86.174)  21.206 ms
0.so-1-1-0.XT1.ATL4.ALTER.NET (152.63.86.170)  20.666 ms
13  0.so-4-0-2.XL1.RDU1.ALTER.NET (152.63.27.57)  36.561 ms  35.086 ms
 34.614 ms
14  124.ATM6-0.GW7.RDU1.ALTER.NET (152.63.37.137)  34.346 ms
123.ATM6-0.GW7.RDU1.ALTER.NET (152.63.37.141)  37.758 ms  37.341 ms
15  sungard-gw.customer.alter.net (63.65.185.70)  35.209 ms  37.034 ms
 36.155 ms
16  dhmir1-vl-2.sgns.net (64.244.31.43)  45.474 ms  34.633 ms  34.585 ms


Bad performance seen in the past. Am I missing something? Where's the
bottelneck?
traceroute to www.kernel.org (204.152.191.37), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  1.642 ms  1.700 ms *
 2  * * *
 3  * * *
 4  * * *
 5  * * *
 6  * pos14-0.rlghncrdc-rtr1.nc.rr.com ( 24.25.0.5)  634.242 ms  634.387 ms
 7  son0-0-3.rlghncrdc-rtr3.nc.rr.com (24.93.64.34)  634.546 ms
634.650 ms  634.801 ms
 8  te-1-3.car1.Raleigh1.Level3.net (4.71.160.5)  635.320 ms
te-1-4.car1.Raleigh1.Level3.net (4.71.160.1)  635.447 ms  635.564 ms
 9  ae-11-11.car2.Raleigh1.Level3.net (4.69.132.174)  643.455 ms
643.597 ms  643.712 ms
10  ae-6-6.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.132.178)  649.176 ms
648.898 ms  649.050 ms
11  * * ae-2.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.69.132.69)  254.990 ms
12  ae-1-100.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.69.132.41)  248.797 ms * *
13  ae-3.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net (4.69.132.61)  234.408 ms  423.459 ms
 533.733 ms
14  ae-1-100.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net (4.69.132.37)  520.128 ms
622.826 ms  623.019 ms
15  ae-3.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.132.57)  651.141 ms  651.347
ms  651.529 ms
16  ae-2-56.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net ( 4.68.123.161)  747.479 ms
747.158 ms  747.371 ms
17  so-13-0.hsa3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.121.234)  750.664 ms
750.859 ms  751.089 ms
18  isc-level3-ge.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.111.59)  751.637 ms
703.822 ms  703.706 ms
19  zeus-pub2.kernel.org (204.152.191.37)  742.215 ms  741.886 ms  741.545 ms
[root at localhost ~]#
1 second latency!
Looks like zeus is on Level3's network. (Level3 bought ACSI from what
I remember.)
[root at localhost ~]# tracert www.microsoft.com
traceroute to www.microsoft.com (207.46.19.60), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  1.714 ms  1.771 ms  1.844 ms
 2  10.127.0.1 (10.127.0.1 )  480.874 ms  481.037 ms  481.109 ms
 3  gig2-1.rlghncj-rtr3.nc.rr.com (24.25.1.18)  481.181 ms  481.323 ms
 481.395 ms
 4  srp5-0.rlghncg-rtr2.nc.rr.com (24.25.2.147)  482.724 ms  482.796
ms  482.869 ms
 5  pos1-1.rlghnca-rtr2.nc.rr.com ( 24.25.20.25)  482.940 ms  483.014
ms  483.086 ms
 6  pos14-0.rlghncrdc-rtr2.nc.rr.com (24.25.0.9)  490.783 ms  368.689
ms  368.823 ms
 7  son0-1-1.chrlncsa-rtr6.carolina.rr.com (24.93.64.57)  373.686 ms
317.454 ms  317.552 ms
 8  te-1-3.car1.Charlotte1.Level3.net (4.71.124.1)  336.068 ms
364.222 ms te-1-4.car1.Charlotte1.Level3.net ( 4.71.124.5)  364.848 ms
 9  ae-4-4.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.132.162)  405.642 ms
369.521 ms  370.828 ms
10  ae-3.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.132.81)  397.114 ms  404.205 ms
 404.345 ms
11  ae-1-100.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net ( 4.69.132.46)  392.582 ms
426.240 ms  426.348 ms
12  ae-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  450.449 ms
446.432 ms  446.546 ms
13  ae-1-100.ebr1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.5)  447.036 ms
515.681 ms  515.840 ms
14  ae-2.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.132.9)  413.698 ms  280.643 ms
 280.442 ms
15  ge-2-0-0-53.gar1.SanJose1.Level3.net ( 4.68.123.66)  287.572 ms
302.898 ms  303.002 ms
16  * * *
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  * * *
21  * * *
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On Nov 28, 2007 10:46 PM, Nick Goldwater <trilug at dogstar1.com> wrote:
> Yes but I need to look at the logs at work to be exact but 6 weeks ago is a guess. The Co-Lo actually cut TW out of their routing for a time. I was told that this is an ongoing effort so it may be hard to pin-point a specific cause and effect without TW's help.
> Nick
>
>
>
> ----- "Ron Joffe" <rjoffe at yahoo.com> wrote:
> | On Wednesday 28 November 2007 17:48, Nick Goldwater wrote:
> | > I know TW has been upgrading their infrastructure because we took
> | some
> | > heavy hits at one of our data centers due to Time Warner. Could be
> | related
> | > to that and the associated peering/routing issues.
> |
> | Do you have a time frame ?
> |
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