[TriLUG] OT - TWC bandwidth caps on the way?

Jim Ray jim at neuse.net
Fri Jun 6 10:26:01 EDT 2008


MD 20/20. I likes da wine ;-)

I use good ole TW Roadrunner.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Brown
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:16 AM
To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] OT - TWC bandwidth caps on the way?

Seriously, do you have 20/20 Internet service in Raleigh?

(considering a move to Wilson myself, just for the bandwidth)

Greg

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Jim Ray <jim at neuse.net> wrote:

> In raleigh, I pay $100/mon for 20/20 yet sometimes use Thunderbird 
> connectivity. A bottle a day keeps the doctor away. Stay away from 
> Boones Farm, though. Lots of packet loss.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On 
> Behalf Of OlsonE at aosa.army.mil
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:46 AM
> To: trilug at trilug.org
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] OT - TWC bandwidth caps on the way?
>
> ....looks like I need to move to Wilson ...haha. I'd gladly pay 
> $100/mo for 40/40
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On 
> Behalf Of Greg Brown
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:11 PM
> To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] OT - TWC bandwidth caps on the way?
>
> Before just being "slammed" with this new "feature" I'd like TWC to 
> provide the amounts of data I'm using on a month-by-month basis so 
> I'll know what to expect from any new reconfiguration of services 
> going forward.  They might already do this for all I know - the only 
> interaction I have with TWC is paying the monthly bill.  I don't even 
> know what my e-mail address was back when I signed up.
>
> As I've stated before TWC does a good job compared to my other 
> provider (Charter).  My modem is on and stays connected, aside from 
> the annoying times during electrical storms.  I can live with this.  
> Still I wish we had FiOS in the area, or something akin to what 
> Wilson, NC did with
> Greenlight:
>
> http://www.greenlightnc.com/home/internet/
>
> Take a peek at those speeds and prices.  Yes, the prices presented are

> for bundled services and may increase if you wanted "only" high-speed,

> but look at the speeds!  10/10 is the slowest you can get, and that is

> as in 10 meg.
>
> I'd really like to hear from a business or consumer who has this 
> service what they think and is it as fast as advertised (and I'd 
> really like to know what ISP(s) they are peering with).
>
> Greg
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:01 PM, bak <bak at picklefactory.org> wrote:
>
> > Jeremy Portzer wrote:
> > >
> > > I really am not a TWC apologist.  I know they do a lot of stupid
> things
> > > and are a huge company with a lot of power in the market.  But I 
> > > do think people need to realize that TWC's idea is NOT 
> > > unreasonable -
> now
> > > we'll see if they manage to implement it in a rational manner.
> > >
> >
> > Thinking about it a little more, it seems to me most of the outrage 
> > is
>
> > centered around a few memes that seem to be in most folks' brains:
> >
> > 1-- They advertise it as unlimited service; now they'll limit it and

> > advertise falsely
> > 2-- They don't have any local competition in many areas; we get less
> for
> > our money with little or no recourse to vote with our dollars and go

> > elsewhere
> > 3-- They're not really out of bandwidth; this is a mere money-grab
> that
> > they feel they can get away with
> > 4-- Folks downloading movies will compete with their VoD service; 
> > this
>
> > is anti-competitive and meant to make other VoD offerings more
> expensive
> > and less attractive to TWC subscribers
> > 5-- They're limiting by total data in/out without taking into 
> > account any other factors
> >
> > It's easy to see why it would give a subscribe a bad taste in 
> > his/her mouth.
> >
> > Speaking for myself, I would rather pay more up front and be 
> > rate-limited down to 50% (still usable for VPN, can still download 
> > movies from Amazon or NetFlix or Xbox games) after 50GB than get
> charged
> > per-GB.  Or have peak/off-peak taken into account when calculating 
> > usage.  ANYTHING other than just pay-as-you-go extra data.
> >
> > --bak
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