[TriLUG] OT: Google advertising for spammers?
dward at nc.rr.com
Mon Aug 30 15:53:19 EDT 2010
As an e-mail server admin who is not on these lists they are still a pain in
my bandwidth. iContact (and the other companies listed in this thread) host
large mailing lists that basically include my entire user base. A few
messages from these guys and there could be as many as a few thousand
messages in my queues in a few seconds. I wish they would throttle their
output to one domain. I'm sure weekly (or daily) newsletters or whatever
they are sending isn't so critical that it has to be in someone's inbox
immediately. It would also be nice if they dumped their load (no pun
intended) at night instead of right in the middle of our business hours.
We are a medium sized nonprofit with an anemic IT budget so I can't buy new
servers, add more bandwidth, etc... I'm stuck with explaining to my end
users why their e-mail delivery times are slow at odd times. I've strugged
at times with trying to figure out ways to limit their throughput on my side
but they just have too many guns pointed at my servers. I gave up and let
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Matt Flyer <matt at noway2.thruhere.net>wrote:
> The problem with this kind of marketing is that they get so busy whoring
> after revenue that they piss off their intended audience to the point
> where their message gets rejected instead of received. Just like
> commercials on the TV when I am forced to watch it without the benefit
> of Tivo; the things are blasted at maximal volume with the intent of
> catching your attention. It certainly does that and without even
> "hearing" the message, I immediately hit the mute button and do
> something else for a few minutes (i.e. not even look at the screen).
> This company is an example of why I exercise vigilance on my spam
> filters, trying to tune them with great precision so this shit doesn't
> even hit my inbox.
> On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 15:14 -0400, David M. wrote:
> > I'm going to regret even typing this but I'm doing it anyway, but they do
> > spam, whether intentional or not, 100% or 10% of their load.
> > SPAM: n. Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent
> > indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups;
> > e-mail.
> > Have I received more than enough spam from iContact and others like them?
> > YES. Are they doing enough to protect the consumer who did not put
> > themselves on *SOMEONE ELSE'S MAILING LIST*? NO. Are the people
> > responsible for creating these lists worse than trolls? YES. I have had
> > various conversations with iContact particularly in regards to complaints
> > about email lists I have ZERO association with, yet I was spammed on. I
> > think I finally managed to get some email addresses I use on permanent do
> > not email lists with them and constantcontact (another competitor). So
> > I think that has been working.
> > PS - don't forget to trim your emails b/c 9K is apparently too large. :)
> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Warren Myers <volcimaster at gmail.com>
> > > I've known a few folks who work(ed) there, and they're distinctly NOT
> > > spammers... However, form what those who have left have told me, it
> > > wasn't a great place to be.
> > >
> > > -Warren
> > >
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