From 13miketele at bellsouth.net Mon Apr 30 12:26:33 2012 From: 13miketele at bellsouth.net (Michael Rulison) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:26:33 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] Ubuntu 12.04 root password reset Message-ID: <4F9EBD39.8020005@bellsouth.net> I have "upgraded" from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04. This is successful in that I can be a guest on my own system but not my own username with administrative privileges. At login my former password (in use for a long time) is rejected. Searching results in messages advising to open my dual boot Ubuntu/WinXP in 'recovery' mode and then going to the root shell prompt. Fine so far, but when I do, it wants wants a password, which is exactly what I do not have. If I boot from Ubuntu on a USB drive I am still stuck in the same problem -- no root password Suggestions please. -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Michael Rulison - 919.782.9576 ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt at noway2.thruhere.net Mon Apr 30 08:43:16 2012 From: matt at noway2.thruhere.net (matt at noway2.thruhere.net) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 08:43:16 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] Ubuntu 12.04 root password reset In-Reply-To: <4F9EBD39.8020005@bellsouth.net> References: <4F9EBD39.8020005@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <4c04a401d3fbab45170381728e13b322.squirrel@noway2.net> > I have "upgraded" from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04. > > This is successful in that I can be a guest on my own system but not my > own username with administrative privileges. At login my former password > (in use for a long time) is rejected. > > Searching results in messages advising to open my dual boot Ubuntu/WinXP > in 'recovery' mode and then going to the root shell prompt. > > Fine so far, but when I do, it wants wants a password, which is exactly > what I do not have. > > If I boot from Ubuntu on a USB drive I am still stuck in the same > problem -- no root password > > Suggestions please. Sounds like something barfed during the installation process. Have you googled the how to reset root password? If I recall the procedure involves using a live CD, mounting the file system and then chrooting to your normal system and then using the passwd command to reset the password. Using the LiveCD will get you in the door as root, but you need to use chroot to use the correct configuration files. Alternatively, you may be able to use the liveCD to create a password for a user and then copy the hash out of the /etc/shadow and place it in the one on your hard drive. From neilson at windstream.net Mon Apr 30 08:50:41 2012 From: neilson at windstream.net (Peter Neilson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 08:50:41 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] Ubuntu 12.04 root password reset In-Reply-To: <4F9EBD39.8020005@bellsouth.net> References: <4F9EBD39.8020005@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Boot to single user and do the usual stuff. Here's someone solving a related problem on 10.4: http://techcolleague.com/2011/03/boot-to-single-user-mode-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/ On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:26:33 -0400, Michael Rulison <13miketele at bellsouth.net> wrote: > I have "upgraded" from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04. > > This is successful in that I can be a guest on my own system but not my > own username with administrative privileges. At login my former password > (in use for a long time) is rejected. > > Searching results in messages advising to open my dual boot Ubuntu/WinXP > in 'recovery' mode and then going to the root shell prompt. > > Fine so far, but when I do, it wants wants a password, which is exactly > what I do not have. > > If I boot from Ubuntu on a USB drive I am still stuck in the same > problem -- no root password > > Suggestions please. From jbicha at ubuntu.com Mon Apr 30 09:36:57 2012 From: jbicha at ubuntu.com (Jeremy Bicha) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:36:57 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] Ubuntu 12.04 root password reset In-Reply-To: <4F9EBD39.8020005@bellsouth.net> References: <4F9EBD39.8020005@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: On 30 April 2012 12:26, Michael Rulison <13miketele at bellsouth.net> wrote: > I have "upgraded" from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04. > > This is successful in that I can be a guest on my own system but not my own > username with administrative privileges. At login my former password (in use > for a long time) is rejected. > > Searching results in messages advising to open my dual boot Ubuntu/WinXP in > 'recovery' mode and then going to the root shell prompt. > > Fine so far, but when I do, it wants wants a password, which is exactly what > I do not have. > > If I boot from Ubuntu on a USB drive I am still stuck in the same problem -- > no root password > > Suggestions please. You could take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/user-forgottenpassword.html Jeremy Bicha From bdmc at bdmcc-us.com Mon Apr 30 09:59:32 2012 From: bdmc at bdmcc-us.com (Brian McCullough) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:59:32 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] Ubuntu 12.04 root password reset In-Reply-To: <4c04a401d3fbab45170381728e13b322.squirrel@noway2.net> References: <4F9EBD39.8020005@bellsouth.net> <4c04a401d3fbab45170381728e13b322.squirrel@noway2.net> Message-ID: <20120430135932.GA3115@bdmcc-us.com> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 08:43:16AM -0400, matt at noway2.thruhere.net wrote: > > I have "upgraded" from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04. > > Sounds like something barfed during the installation process. > > Have you googled the how to reset root password? I also seem to remember that recent ( last year or more ) versions of Ubuntu have no "root" password, but insist on you using "sudo" from your own user account. Sure, once you are in sudo you can set a root password, but that isn't the default. Brian From jbicha at ubuntu.com Mon Apr 30 10:04:34 2012 From: jbicha at ubuntu.com (Jeremy Bicha) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:04:34 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] Ubuntu 12.04 root password reset In-Reply-To: <20120430135932.GA3115@bdmcc-us.com> References: <4F9EBD39.8020005@bellsouth.net> <4c04a401d3fbab45170381728e13b322.squirrel@noway2.net> <20120430135932.GA3115@bdmcc-us.com> Message-ID: On 30 April 2012 09:59, Brian McCullough wrote: > I also seem to remember that recent ( last year or more ) versions of > Ubuntu have no "root" password, but insist on you using "sudo" from your > own user account. > > Sure, once you are in sudo you can set a root password, but that isn't > the default. Ubuntu has always disabled the root account by default. I'm surprised more distros don't do the same. Jeremy From porter at trilug.org Mon Apr 30 10:14:37 2012 From: porter at trilug.org (Alan Porter) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:14:37 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] Ubuntu 12.04 root password reset In-Reply-To: <20120430135932.GA3115@bdmcc-us.com> References: <4F9EBD39.8020005@bellsouth.net> <4c04a401d3fbab45170381728e13b322.squirrel@noway2.net> <20120430135932.GA3115@bdmcc-us.com> Message-ID: <4F9E9E4D.4030809@trilug.org> > I also seem to remember that recent ( last year or more ) versions of > Ubuntu have no "root" password, but insist on you using "sudo" from your > own user account. There's a big difference between "insisting" and coming configured that way by default. To switch to using a root password: $ sudo passwd root To switch to using sudo instead of a root password: $ apt-get install sudo ; adduser username sudo To disable the root password: $ sudo passwd -l root -- # ????o? u?l? From matt at noway2.thruhere.net Mon Apr 30 10:29:24 2012 From: matt at noway2.thruhere.net (matt at noway2.thruhere.net) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:29:24 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] Ubuntu 12.04 root password reset In-Reply-To: References: <4F9EBD39.8020005@bellsouth.net> <4c04a401d3fbab45170381728e13b322.squirrel@noway2.net> <20120430135932.GA3115@bdmcc-us.com> Message-ID: You are correct. One of Ubuntu's distinguishing features is to lock the root account and configure the primary user with sudo ALL. In the case of the OP, the description reads like something buggered the login of this primary user during an upgrade. Consequently, access via a root privileged account is needed to reset this password. It appears that there are a couple of ways to go about getting it. With regards to whether or not the root password should be locked, I find myself of mixed opinions on this and see it both as an advantage and a disadvantage. On daily use systems, e.g. my normal browsing laptop, it is fairly rare for me to perform activities that require elevated privilege and using sudo is simple enough. When working on servers, especially when performing any sort of configuration and installation, having to prefix every stinking command with sudo becomes a royal PITA. How many times have you gone to modify a file in /etc only to see the "warning: read only" pop up as soon as you make a modification? It doesn't take too long before the command 'sudo -i' gets executed to do away with this. At the same time, root is, hands down, the most attacked user account and disabling the account short circuits this attack. Similarly, from reading on the security forums, I note that far too many wannabe admins refuse to let go of direct or SSH login via root for all of their activities. >From a security standpoint, using an account with limited privileges as your main account and then having a second account (with a strong password) helps add an additional layer between a would be intruder and root privilege, that a single, primary, sudo account doesn't. Of course, it is beneficial to prevent SSH root login and require direct root access to be from a physical console. > On 30 April 2012 09:59, Brian McCullough wrote: >> I also seem to remember that recent ( last year or more ) versions of >> Ubuntu have no "root" password, but insist on you using "sudo" from your >> own user account. >> >> Sure, once you are in sudo you can set a root password, but that isn't >> the default. > > Ubuntu has always disabled the root account by default. I'm surprised > more distros don't do the same. > > Jeremy > -- From porter at trilug.org Mon Apr 30 10:40:01 2012 From: porter at trilug.org (Alan Porter) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:40:01 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] Ubuntu 12.04 root password reset In-Reply-To: <4F9E9E4D.4030809@trilug.org> References: <4F9EBD39.8020005@bellsouth.net> <4c04a401d3fbab45170381728e13b322.squirrel@noway2.net> <20120430135932.GA3115@bdmcc-us.com> <4F9E9E4D.4030809@trilug.org> Message-ID: <4F9EA441.40807@trilug.org> Thanks for reminding me to publish my how-to. http://blog.alanporter.com/2012-04-30/sudo-vs-root-password -- # ????o? u?l? From porter at trilug.org Mon Apr 30 13:46:01 2012 From: porter at trilug.org (Alan Porter) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:46:01 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] any Raspberry Pi owners out there? Message-ID: <4F9ECFD9.3050501@trilug.org> Does anyone in the group have a Raspberry Pi yet? Interesting in showing it at a meeting? Have you taught it any tricks? Reply here or to steering at trilug.org. We're thinking about presentation ideas, maybe by itself, and maybe with some other sorts of open source hardware. -- # ????o? u?l? From kwoodie at gmail.com Mon Apr 30 15:20:56 2012 From: kwoodie at gmail.com (Keith Woodie) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:20:56 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] any Raspberry Pi owners out there? In-Reply-To: <4F9ECFD9.3050501@trilug.org> References: <4F9ECFD9.3050501@trilug.org> Message-ID: Ordered one but still hasn't shipped....:( From pete at soper.us Mon Apr 30 19:29:25 2012 From: pete at soper.us (Pete Soper) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:29:25 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] any Raspberry Pi owners out there? In-Reply-To: <4F9ECFD9.3050501@trilug.org> References: <4F9ECFD9.3050501@trilug.org> Message-ID: <4F9F2055.2050201@soper.us> I forwarded the explanation from Element14/Newark but it was too long. The summary (my translation) "Sorry, mid-August is the current date, but we hope to beat that. You folks outside the UK were screwed wrt to the first manufacturing run from the start, but then it came out that the Pi people thought they could ignore FCC testing requirements. They were mistaken." -Pete On 04/30/2012 01:46 PM, Alan Porter wrote: > Does anyone in the group have a Raspberry Pi yet? > > Interesting in showing it at a meeting? > Have you taught it any tricks? > > Reply here or to steering at trilug.org. > > We're thinking about presentation ideas, maybe by itself, > and maybe with some other sorts of open source hardware. > From jmack at wm7d.net Mon Apr 30 19:35:07 2012 From: jmack at wm7d.net (Joseph Mack NA3T) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TriLUG] any Raspberry Pi owners out there? In-Reply-To: <4F9F2055.2050201@soper.us> References: <4F9ECFD9.3050501@trilug.org> <4F9F2055.2050201@soper.us> Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012, Pete Soper wrote: > I forwarded the explanation from Element14/Newark but it > was too long. The summary (my translation) "Sorry, > mid-August is the current date, but we hope to beat that. > You folks outside the UK were screwed wrt to the first > manufacturing run from the start, but then it came out > that the Pi people thought they could ignore FCC testing > requirements. They were mistaken." RP tourists will be going to Holland for vacations and bringing them back strapped to their thighs. Joe -- Joseph Mack NA3T EME(B,D), FM05lw North Carolina jmack (at) wm7d (dot) net - azimuthal equidistant map generator at http://www.wm7d.net/azproj.shtml Homepage http://www.austintek.com/ It's GNU/Linux! From bdmc at bdmcc-us.com Tue May 1 21:25:08 2012 From: bdmc at bdmcc-us.com (Brian McCullough) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 21:25:08 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] LVM InitRAMfs Message-ID: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> Folks, I am in a bit of a conundrum. I have just finished installing a Debian Squeeze system, using LVM to configure the drive, and everything seemed to install correctly. Unfortunately, when I boot the machine, it stops and says that it can't find the filesystems. If I issue "lvm vgscan" and "lvm vgchange -a y" at the command prompt ( initramfs: ) and then Ctrl-D, the boot continues successfully. I have tried "update-initramfs -u" several times, with no improvement. I then added a two line file to /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-premount, with those two lines. No help. I then moved the script file to /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-premount, and got some different messages, but ultimately, it still does not boot correctly. Any suggestions? Thanks, Brian From pete at soper.us Tue May 1 22:52:43 2012 From: pete at soper.us (Pete Soper) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 22:52:43 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] any Raspberry Pi owners out there? In-Reply-To: <4F9F2055.2050201@soper.us> References: <4F9ECFD9.3050501@trilug.org> <4F9F2055.2050201@soper.us> Message-ID: <4FA0A17B.4070301@soper.us> Newark/element14 just sent me this update: "We're excited to inform you that your Raspberry Pi will be delivered in an upcoming shipment beginning the week of June 18th. We will have your firm delivery date, after manufacturer confirmations are made, on Newark.com. If you don't have all the accessories you need for your Raspberry Pi, please take advantage of this 15% off coupon on your next purchase from Newark.com. *Please Note*: /The delivery date reflected in your order history on www.newark.com will not update until stock is received in our warehouses. The delivery date shown in *this email* is the most accurate delivery date we have for your order. /Here's what's been happening with shipment and delivery of Pi: As you may have heard, all the Raspberry Pi units require a CE (compliance tested) mark prior to distribution. We are pleased to report that this testing has been successful, following an accelerated application, jointly conducted by the Raspberry Pi Foundation and Newark element14. So once again, we thank you for your patience as you've waited for the delivery of your Raspberry Pi. We'll be sure to keep you up to date as more news becomes available. In order to stay up to date, we invite you to visit the Raspberry Pi FAQ section on our Community." -Pete From porter at trilug.org Wed May 2 00:04:09 2012 From: porter at trilug.org (Alan Porter) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 00:04:09 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] LVM InitRAMfs In-Reply-To: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> Message-ID: <4FA0B239.7000807@trilug.org> > I have tried "update-initramfs -u" several times, with no improvement. Are you sure that /boot is mounted when you ran update-initramfs? Was it mounted in the correct place? I have generated initramfs files before that got poked into an otherwise-empty /boot mountpoint, leaving the actual boot partition untouched. It's something to check. -- # ????o? u?l? From bdmc at bdmcc-us.com Wed May 2 00:17:17 2012 From: bdmc at bdmcc-us.com (Brian McCullough) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 00:17:17 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] LVM InitRAMfs In-Reply-To: <4FA0B239.7000807@trilug.org> References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> <4FA0B239.7000807@trilug.org> Message-ID: <20120502041717.GA6647@bdmcc-us.com> On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 12:04:09AM -0400, Alan Porter wrote: > > > >I have tried "update-initramfs -u" several times, with no improvement. > > Are you sure that /boot is mounted when you ran update-initramfs? Was it > mounted in the correct place? I have generated initramfs files before that > got poked into an otherwise-empty /boot mountpoint, leaving the actual boot > partition untouched. It's something to check. It's a good thought, Alan. Unfortunately, I am definitely changing the initrd in /boot. OK, I have tried putting my "scriptlet" into init-premount, local-premount and init-bottom. In init-premount I get different error messages, but in all cases the LVM filesystems are not getting mounted when they are needed. Brian From sterling.daniel at gmail.com Wed May 2 01:01:35 2012 From: sterling.daniel at gmail.com (Daniel Sterling) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 01:01:35 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] LVM InitRAMfs In-Reply-To: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Brian McCullough wrote: > Unfortunately, when I boot the machine, it stops and says that it can't > find the filesystems. Hmm, you could try running vgmknodes , as noted at http://www.voofie.com/content/13/converting-existing-root-filesystem-to-lvm-in-debian/ You might be hitting this bug - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=568838 - there's a patch in that bug report that might fix things -- Dan From Jackie.Andrason at quintiles.com Wed May 2 10:09:03 2012 From: Jackie.Andrason at quintiles.com (Jackie Andrason) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:09:03 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems In-Reply-To: References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> Message-ID: <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> Hi all, We are looking at changing out the current x86 systems we use for Oracle databases in our data centers, which run Oracle Linux. Some are blades and some are standalone systems. The current model we use has a pretty high hardware failure rate, even though a lot of it is redundant. Most of these systems are 4X2 or 4X4 core, 256 - 512 GB RAM, with 1G and 10G LAN connections, and all the application data is on NFS, not local disk. Does anyone have any recommendations on vendors (HP, IBM, Cisco, etc.), models and configurations that are fairly stable as well as redundant hardware-wise? It would help my research to have some recommendations from folks who have been running these configurations successful for a good length of time. Thanks so much for your help! ********************** IMPORTANT--PLEASE READ ************************ This electronic message, including its attachments, is COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL and may contain PROPRIETARY or LEGALLY PRIVILEGED information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message or any of the information included in it is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and permanently delete this message and its attachments, along with any copies thereof. Thank you. ************************************************************************ From kwoodie at gmail.com Wed May 2 10:25:20 2012 From: kwoodie at gmail.com (Keith Woodie) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:25:20 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems In-Reply-To: <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> Message-ID: We currently leverage Red Hat Linux 5 and HP x86 blades for our Oracle cluster, which is fairly stable. I would be curious what hardware vendor your currently leveraging. Keith Woodie From tboggs at mcclatchyinteractive.com Wed May 2 10:34:48 2012 From: tboggs at mcclatchyinteractive.com (Boggs, Ted) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:34:48 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems In-Reply-To: References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> Message-ID: We've run Sun, HP, Dell, IBM, and Fujitsu over the years for both blade and rack servers. We have found Fujitsu to be the the clear leader in reliability, performance, and cost. If I had to rate our experiences with the others, I would put them in this order: IBM/HP (tie), Dell, Sun. I hope this helps. -- Ted Boggs McClatchy Interactive On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Keith Woodie wrote: > We currently leverage Red Hat Linux 5 and HP x86 blades for our Oracle > cluster, which is fairly stable. I would be curious what hardware vendor > your currently leveraging. > > Keith Woodie > -- > This message was sent to: Ted Boggs > To unsubscribe, send a blank message to trilug-leave at trilug.org from that > address. > TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug > Unsubscribe or edit options on the web : > http://www.trilug.org/mailman/options/trilug/tboggs%40mcclatchyinteractive.com > TriLUG FAQ : > http://www.trilug.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions > From Len.Boyle at sas.com Wed May 2 10:39:32 2012 From: Len.Boyle at sas.com (Len Boyle) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 14:39:32 +0000 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems In-Reply-To: <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> Message-ID: I have been told in today's world you might want to look at the Oracle database machine. I have been told that Oracle licensing on the Oracle hardware appliance may be better. The Oracle hardware appliance can be either Oracle Linux or Oracle Solaris. -----Original Message----- From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On Behalf Of Jackie Andrason Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:09 AM To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems Hi all, We are looking at changing out the current x86 systems we use for Oracle databases in our data centers, which run Oracle Linux. Some are blades and some are standalone systems. The current model we use has a pretty high hardware failure rate, even though a lot of it is redundant. Most of these systems are 4X2 or 4X4 core, 256 - 512 GB RAM, with 1G and 10G LAN connections, and all the application data is on NFS, not local disk. Does anyone have any recommendations on vendors (HP, IBM, Cisco, etc.), models and configurations that are fairly stable as well as redundant hardware-wise? It would help my research to have some recommendations from folks who have been running these configurations successful for a good length of time. Thanks so much for your help! ********************** IMPORTANT--PLEASE READ ************************ This electronic message, including its attachments, is COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL and may contain PROPRIETARY or LEGALLY PRIVILEGED information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message or any of the information included in it is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and permanently delete this message and its attachments, along with any copies thereof. Thank you. ************************************************************************ -- This message was sent to: len.boyle at sas.com To unsubscribe, send a blank message to trilug-leave at trilug.org from that address. TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug Unsubscribe or edit options on the web : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/options/trilug/len.boyle%40sas.com TriLUG FAQ : http://www.trilug.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions From spkorb at gmail.com Wed May 2 11:29:35 2012 From: spkorb at gmail.com (Sean Korb) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 11:29:35 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems In-Reply-To: References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> Message-ID: +1 for HP x86 blades and RHEL5. No issues. I like the BL460 Intel blades better than the BL685 AMD blades, but do some benchmarking to see which product works best for you. Lots of choices now from all the vendors. They're new, but I really like Cisco's UCS blade architecture. Maybe not as important to have all those features for Oracle but sure looks nice if you're managing a data center with a bunch of app servers. sean On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Keith Woodie wrote: > We currently leverage Red Hat Linux 5 and HP x86 blades for our Oracle > cluster, which is fairly stable. ?I would be curious what hardware vendor > your currently leveraging. > > Keith Woodie > -- > This message was sent to: Sean Korb > To unsubscribe, send a blank message to trilug-leave at trilug.org from that address. > TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug > Unsubscribe or edit options on the web ?: http://www.trilug.org/mailman/options/trilug/spkorb%40gmail.com > TriLUG FAQ ? ? ? ? ?: http://www.trilug.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions -- Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382 "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller "Computers are useless.? They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso From Reginald.Reed at emc.com Wed May 2 11:00:25 2012 From: Reginald.Reed at emc.com (Reginald.Reed at emc.com) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 11:00:25 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems In-Reply-To: References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com><8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> Message-ID: I really wish Oracle had retained the Sun brand. I *hate* seeing "Oracle Solaris" and "Oracle Java" :( > -----Original Message----- > From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On > Behalf Of Len Boyle > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:40 AM > To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion > Subject: Re: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems > > I have been told in today's world you might want to look at the Oracle > database machine. > I have been told that Oracle licensing on the Oracle hardware appliance > may be better. > > The Oracle hardware appliance can be either Oracle Linux or Oracle > Solaris. From tboggs at mcclatchyinteractive.com Wed May 2 11:37:55 2012 From: tboggs at mcclatchyinteractive.com (Boggs, Ted) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 11:37:55 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems In-Reply-To: References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> Message-ID: Yes, the Cisco stuff looks pretty nice. It plays very nicely with RHEV, if you are looking to virtualize. I think it is still too early to comment on reliability though. That said, I am sure it it probably at least average. -- Ted Boggs On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Sean Korb wrote: > +1 for HP x86 blades and RHEL5. No issues. I like the BL460 Intel > blades better than the BL685 AMD blades, but do some benchmarking to > see which product works best for you. Lots of choices now from all > the vendors. > > They're new, but I really like Cisco's UCS blade architecture. Maybe > not as important to have all those features for Oracle but sure looks > nice if you're managing a data center with a bunch of app servers. > > sean > > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Keith Woodie wrote: > > We currently leverage Red Hat Linux 5 and HP x86 blades for our Oracle > > cluster, which is fairly stable. I would be curious what hardware vendor > > your currently leveraging. > > > > Keith Woodie > > -- > > This message was sent to: Sean Korb > > To unsubscribe, send a blank message to trilug-leave at trilug.org from > that address. > > TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug > > Unsubscribe or edit options on the web : > http://www.trilug.org/mailman/options/trilug/spkorb%40gmail.com > > TriLUG FAQ : > http://www.trilug.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions > > > > -- > Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org > '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382 > "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller > "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso > -- > This message was sent to: Ted Boggs > To unsubscribe, send a blank message to trilug-leave at trilug.org from that > address. > TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug > Unsubscribe or edit options on the web : > http://www.trilug.org/mailman/options/trilug/tboggs%40mcclatchyinteractive.com > TriLUG FAQ : > http://www.trilug.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions > From glcox at pobox.com Wed May 2 11:43:42 2012 From: glcox at pobox.com (Greg Cox) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 11:43:42 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems In-Reply-To: <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> Message-ID: On May 2, 2012, at 10:09, Jackie Andrason wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations on vendors (HP, IBM, Cisco, etc.), models and configurations that are fairly stable as well as redundant hardware-wise? Cisco UCS. To an OS, hardware is hardware, but cabling and managing dozens of individual servers is for chumps. From kwoodie at gmail.com Wed May 2 13:00:53 2012 From: kwoodie at gmail.com (Keith Woodie) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 13:00:53 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems In-Reply-To: References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> Message-ID: I have had a lot of success leveraging BL685's for several different large Middleware software infrastructure products in addition to Oracle DBs. Keith Woodie From tboggs at mcclatchyinteractive.com Wed May 2 13:08:30 2012 From: tboggs at mcclatchyinteractive.com (Boggs, Ted) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 13:08:30 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems In-Reply-To: References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> Message-ID: I never understood the cabling argument from Cisco. Most of the other major blade vendors started offering converged adapters before Cisco did. The management piece is very compelling though as long as your environment isn't too big. One size definitely fits most in their case. FWIW: You can accomplish much the same thing with tools like cobbler, koan, puppet, etc. if you are willing to put in a little effort up front. -- Ted Boggs On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Greg Cox wrote: > > > On May 2, 2012, at 10:09, Jackie Andrason > wrote: > > > Does anyone have any recommendations on vendors (HP, IBM, Cisco, etc.), > models and configurations that are fairly stable as well as redundant > hardware-wise? > > Cisco UCS. To an OS, hardware is hardware, but cabling and managing > dozens of individual servers is for chumps. > -- > This message was sent to: Ted Boggs > To unsubscribe, send a blank message to trilug-leave at trilug.org from that > address. > TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug > Unsubscribe or edit options on the web : > http://www.trilug.org/mailman/options/trilug/tboggs%40mcclatchyinteractive.com > TriLUG FAQ : > http://www.trilug.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions > From asterger at earthlink.net Wed May 2 17:14:44 2012 From: asterger at earthlink.net (Alan Sterger) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 17:14:44 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems Message-ID: <4FA1A3C4.6010807@earthlink.net> Oracle can supply the whole stack, Oracle Linux as well as database. They even help with configuration by supplying an RPM based configurator, Oracle Validated Configurations. Validated Configurations aggregates Oracle specific tuning requirements into 1 step, no additional library research required. Shameless Plug: If you need any assistance with this or any other Oracle project, just send me an off-list email. Cheers, -- Alan Sterger asterger at earthlink.net From Jackie.Andrason at quintiles.com Wed May 2 17:30:48 2012 From: Jackie.Andrason at quintiles.com (Jackie Andrason) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:30:48 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems In-Reply-To: <4FA1A3C4.6010807@earthlink.net> References: <4FA1A3C4.6010807@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E8A9@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> Yeah we actually also have an Exadata, but my company won't spend that kind of money any more. Therefore, the best performance I can get cost-wise on an x86 server is what I am looking for. The Sparc servers are no longer an option for me either, apparently. Thanks to all who have sent me suggestions. -----Original Message----- From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On Behalf Of Alan Sterger Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 5:15 PM To: trilug at trilug.org Subject: Re: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems Oracle can supply the whole stack, Oracle Linux as well as database. They even help with configuration by supplying an RPM based configurator, Oracle Validated Configurations. Validated Configurations aggregates Oracle specific tuning requirements into 1 step, no additional library research required. Shameless Plug: If you need any assistance with this or any other Oracle project, just send me an off-list email. Cheers, -- Alan Sterger asterger at earthlink.net -- This message was sent to: Jackie Andrason To unsubscribe, send a blank message to trilug-leave at trilug.org from that address. 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Thank you. ************************************************************************ From bill at arrowsreach.com Wed May 2 18:04:48 2012 From: bill at arrowsreach.com (Bill Farrow) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 18:04:48 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] Steering Committee Elections - Bill Farrow Message-ID: Hi, The TriLUG Steering Committee Elections are coming up at our May Meeting next week, and I have decided to put my hand up to run for a second term. Serving on the TriLUG Steering Committee has been a great experience, I would highly recommend it to anyone who is thinking about taking a more active role. You probably know me as the guy with that funny "down under" accent who introduces the speakers at meetings. My current roll on the SC is Public Relations Officer. This role has the following responsibilities: * Promote Meetings - obtain synopses and bio for the upcoming meeting - send meeting announcements and reminders to TriLUG lists - send invitations to other groups who might be interested in a particular topic * Respond to queries and emails, or delegate to the appropriate officer I don't know how I got the job, but I have also been processing the new membership forms, issuing cards, and creating user accounts on pilot. Beyond this, I have instigated the Hack Day's in an attempt to encourage more participation and interaction within our membership. If you haven't been able to attend one of these yet, don't worry, there will be more... This next year brings new challenges: we need to keep our pipeline full with great presentations, cultivate more sponsorship, and secure a new meeting location. Fun times ahead :-) Vote for me ! Bill Farrow From glcox at pobox.com Wed May 2 18:54:17 2012 From: glcox at pobox.com (Greg Cox) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 18:54:17 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems In-Reply-To: References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> Message-ID: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Boggs, Ted wrote: > I never understood the cabling argument from Cisco. Incremental cable add of an 8-blade UCS (with enough cabling to cover HA): 6 U, 4 power, 4 10GbE. Incremental cable add of 8 pizza boxes (same caveat): 8 U, 16 power, 16 10GbE, 16 FC, 1 cat5 serial. It's so dense you can't extract a dead PS from behind the copper without taking the box out of service. It's so dense that you can run out of PDU receptacles before you run out of U. It's so dense that your pizza boxes can cook because they can't push air through the wad of cabling. It's really an amazing visual. Wish I could share photos. There's probably propaganda around for 'em. >?Most of the other major blade vendors started offering converged adapters before Cisco did. Yup, no argument there. CNA's are nice, but, hardly the biggest win for UCS. It's kinda "that's great, what else have you got for me." >?The management piece is very compelling though as long as your environment isn't too big. >?One size definitely fits most in their case. Big is actually where it wins (and I'd say big is anything over 8 blades). Up to 160 blades with one point of management (one place to hit for OOB, one place to do SNMP on all the drives and cooling and other stuff). The real win is the Service Profiles. Server blows up? Tell any new blade "you're the guy who just blew up, get in there!" 10 minutes later, he's got the same MACs, NICs, WWPNs, obscure BIOS rules that that wacky one-off blade needed that the last guy never documented, and booting back into service as if he were the old guy. Your overnight runbook is crazy short and can be handled by the most junior of admins. > FWIW: You can accomplish much the same thing with tools like cobbler, koan, > puppet, etc. if you are willing to put in a little effort up front. Sure, if you have a unix-y stack up. I thought we were talking more about the hardware (pre-OS-has-booted levels), which, IMO, has always been the thing those tools fail at. Anyway, from a hardware perspective, standalone rackables are dead to me. Classic blade chassis, too. -G "no CSCO sponsorship expressed or implied or actual" C From bdmc at bdmcc-us.com Thu May 3 08:29:09 2012 From: bdmc at bdmcc-us.com (Brian McCullough) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 08:29:09 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] LVM InitRAMfs In-Reply-To: References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> Message-ID: <20120503122909.GA21028@bdmcc-us.com> On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 01:01:35AM -0400, Daniel Sterling wrote: > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Brian McCullough wrote: > > Unfortunately, when I boot the machine, it stops and says that it can't > > find the filesystems. > > Hmm, you could try running vgmknodes , as noted at > http://www.voofie.com/content/13/converting-existing-root-filesystem-to-lvm-in-debian/ > > You might be hitting this bug - > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=568838 - there's a > patch in that bug report that might fix things Thank you, Daniel. I looked at both of these, and, while neither appeared to be exactly what I was looking for, the second pointed me at a script, lvm2, in /usr/share/initramfs-tools, that, after some massaging, have got me to the point where I am now able to reboot this server without manual attention. There are some "extra" messages ( warnings, mostly ), but it does boot. Thanks again, Brian From tboggs at mcclatchyinteractive.com Thu May 3 08:46:57 2012 From: tboggs at mcclatchyinteractive.com (Boggs, Ted) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 08:46:57 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] data center class x86 systems In-Reply-To: References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> <8BDBCF691D57E74A9000CA45E09F8B4C328F03E2F1@USADC-AMBXB00.quintiles.net> Message-ID: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Greg Cox wrote: > > > > The management piece is very compelling though as long as your > environment isn't too big. > > One size definitely fits most in their case. > > Big is actually where it wins (and I'd say big is anything over 8 > blades). Up to 160 blades with one point of management (one place to > hit for OOB, one place to do SNMP on all the drives and cooling and > other stuff). > > Yeah, I was considering big to be hundreds of blades. I currently manage 400+ between 2 datacenters. We had to figure out how to do that without nice tools from Cisco years ago, so we already solved most of the problems UCS is designed to solve. Cisco is definitely a x86 server vendor worth considering. -Ted From porter at trilug.org Thu May 3 09:05:36 2012 From: porter at trilug.org (Alan Porter) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 09:05:36 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] SC nomination - Jeremy Davis Message-ID: <4FA282A0.7050105@trilug.org> I'd like to nominate Jeremy Davis to the steering committee. You might recognize Jeremy as the guy behind the camera at some of the last few meetings. From time to time, we get requests for someone to record meetings, and Jeremy took the initiative to experiment and see what would work for us. Jeremy works for the NC National Guard, where he discovered that he could replace some of their expensive internal newsletters with simple open source tools like WordPress and RSS feeds. From there, his curiosity led him to more and more open source resources. He has a great attitude and a willingness to contribute. I think he'd make a good addition to the steering committee. -- # ????o? u?l? From bill at arrowsreach.com Thu May 3 09:24:55 2012 From: bill at arrowsreach.com (Bill Farrow) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 09:24:55 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] May 10 Meeting - OpenSource.com Message-ID: Topic: OpenSource.com Presenter: Ruth Suehle When: Thursday, May 10, 7pm Where: Red Hat HQ, NCSU Centennial Campus, 1801 Varsity Dr, Raleigh, NC Webpage: http://trilug.org/2012-05-10/opensource-com Sponsor: http://www.caktusgroup.com/about/ "Open source" isn't just about code anymore. It's a successful business model for selling that software ? Red Hat recently became the first billion-dollar open source company. Then other businesses took notice and adopted openness principles. Now we see openness in education. In governments and laws. The principles of open source are changing everything about our lives ? principles that you use in software development every day. At opensource.com, we explore all of that. We examine what happens when those principles ? openness, transparency, collaboration, rapid prototyping, community ? are applied to the world. We?ve found hundreds of stories of how openness has solved problems. Changed the way our children learn. Increased governmental transparency. Created collaboration in business. Helped save lives in times of crisis. "Open source" now defines a culture ? a culture that?s changing the world. But to help spread openness, you have to be able to talk about it in a way that keeps people from immediately thinking it's all about software. I'll tell you how to use pop culture ? from Iron Man to The Hunger Games, World of Goo to Star Trek ? to explain these principles and how you can apply them beyond the code. Ruth Suehle is a writer and editor in Brand Communications + Design at Red Hat, Fedora contributor, and moderator of the opensource.com Life channel. She's a maker at heart who is often behind a sewing machine, rolling fondant, or looking for the next DIY project. You can find her on Twitter and identi.ca as @suehle. From oddissyus at gmail.com Thu May 3 12:39:29 2012 From: oddissyus at gmail.com (Seva Adari) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 12:39:29 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] LVM InitRAMfs In-Reply-To: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> Message-ID: Hi Brian, I have not tried lvm on Debian, but last time I did an lvm install on Ubuntu, it was tricky. I could n't install it directly from the install CD. I don't know how different Debian is from Ubuntu, but following is what I did on Ubuntu. 1. Boot into livecd 2. Open terminal and Install the lvm package 3. Load the kernel module dm-mod via modprobe 4. Manually partition the disk using fdisk Boot can't be part of lvm. Make sure that boot is on a separate partition and the rest per your needs. Swap can be part of lvm 5. Let the OS know of created partitions: partprobe 6. Create /boot file system using mkfs on your first partition 7. Next create your lvm partitions (including swap) Create lvm physical (pvcreate), group (vgcreate) and logical volumes(lvcreate) 8. Create file systems on your lvm partitions using mkfs 9. Now on the livecd desktop you will see a 'install' icon, click that to start install 10. When you come to disk partitioning select manual and choose the partitions you made for appropriate mount points 11. Continue with install until the final step 12. WARNING: DO NOT GET RID OF THE POP UP WINDOW WITH THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE: 'Do you want to continue to use Live CD or Restart' 13. Your installed system has no lvm package installed, so you need to do that before your restart and that may be the problem you are experiencing. Here is what you do from a terminal: sudo chroot /target aptitutde update aptitude install lvm2 14. Reboot and it should recognize boot and recognize lvm The install I did was couple years ago and I hope it has gotten better since then. __ Seva On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Brian McCullough wrote: > Folks, > > I am in a bit of a conundrum. > > I have just finished installing a Debian Squeeze system, using LVM to > configure the drive, and everything seemed to install correctly. > > Unfortunately, when I boot the machine, it stops and says that it can't > find the filesystems. > > If I issue "lvm vgscan" and "lvm vgchange -a y" at the command prompt ( > initramfs: ) and then Ctrl-D, the boot continues successfully. > > I have tried "update-initramfs -u" several times, with no improvement. > I then added a two line file to > /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-premount, with those two lines. No > help. ?I then moved the script file to > /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-premount, and got some different > messages, but ultimately, it still does not boot correctly. > > > Any suggestions? > > > Thanks, > Brian > > > -- > This message was sent to: oddissyus at gmail.com > To unsubscribe, send a blank message to trilug-leave at trilug.org from that address. > TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug > Unsubscribe or edit options on the web ?: http://www.trilug.org/mailman/options/trilug/oddissyus%40gmail.com > TriLUG FAQ ? ? ? ? ?: http://www.trilug.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions From bdmc at bdmcc-us.com Thu May 3 12:45:00 2012 From: bdmc at bdmcc-us.com (Brian McCullough) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 12:45:00 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] LVM InitRAMfs In-Reply-To: References: <20120502012508.GA5395@bdmcc-us.com> Message-ID: <20120503164500.GA23724@bdmcc-us.com> On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 12:39:29PM -0400, Seva Adari wrote: > Hi Brian, > > I have not tried lvm on Debian, but last time I did an lvm install on > Ubuntu, it was tricky. I could n't install it directly from the install CD. > I don't know how different Debian is from Ubuntu, but following is > what I did on Ubuntu. Fortunately, things are MUCH BETTER now. I'll write more later, but have to run now. B-) From dave at jamsoft.com Thu May 3 15:45:41 2012 From: dave at jamsoft.com (David Black) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 15:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TriLUG] Have a job: Solutions Architect at NetApp In-Reply-To: <6d40f284-2518-4f5e-a0b3-947d5689b100@amos.jamsoft.com> Message-ID: <99ace401-860d-4938-bfa0-6d2b9fc99d98@amos.jamsoft.com> This is a somewhat difficult-to-title position, but I'll describe the gist of it. First, a direct link to the posting, and I am the hiring manager: https://careers.netapp.com/1033/asp/tg/cim_jobdetail.asp?jobId=256783&PartnerId=25093&SiteId=5100&type=mail&JobReqLang=1&recordstart=1&JobSiteId=5100&JobSiteInfo=256783_5100&gqid=0 This position has to do with developing packaged/templated applications - groups of VMs, often combined with physical components, in a self-serve orchestrated Cloud. I feel the kind of person who'd most enjoy it will have an intermediate software development background, is experienced in the build/test/release/revise process, and has multi-OS sysadmin and strong networking skills. It does not involve direct customer contact; it is an enabling position primarily for NetApp and channel partner Systems Engineers, for their self-education and conducting of customer demos. The group is actively growing, so adaptability and a naturally collaborative, creative personality are essential. It's an on-site position at NetApp's RTP campus, and only local candidates are currently being considered. Off-list only please, I will reply to straightforward questions. You can also apply at the above site; I cannot apply for you. For anyone who thinks to email a copy of your resume/CV - feel free, but you're likely to receive a response only if something catches my eye or I otherwise want to encourage you to apply. Cheers, Dave From plumcreek at gmail.com Fri May 4 14:11:51 2012 From: plumcreek at gmail.com (plumcreek at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 14:11:51 -0400 Subject: [TriLUG] any Raspberry Pi owners out there? In-Reply-To: <4FA0A17B.4070301@soper.us> References: <4F9ECFD9.3050501@trilug.org> <4F9F2055.2050201@soper.us> <4FA0A17B.4070301@soper.us> Message-ID: I received an email from Farnell (element14) yesterday saying my RP order had shipped, but there was no tracking number. So I went to their site and my order there is listed as "complete", which supposedly means they've shipped it, but there's no tracking number there either. So... no idea when it will actually arrive. -- Daniel Bartholomew