From jvaughters04 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 17 08:37:02 2013
From: jvaughters04 at yahoo.com (John Vaughters)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 05:37:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TriLUG] OT Local Electronic DIY Store
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Tiger stopped checking reciepts about a 6 months ago. Maybe not that far back. It doesn't really bother me, but just seems stupid to have a cash register 6 feet away from check point and think that you need to check again. What did I grab in a 6 foot distance? ok ok maybe 8 feet. Still, I guess I am old school, I do buy plenty on the web, but I truly just like?looking at the stuff before I buy it. I have found prices to be the same or even better at the store than online. The clearance boxes can be real fruitful. 
?
I am going to Atlanta next week, and I am going to stop at one of the FRY's to see if they still carry a decent amount of components. I'll let you know if they are still STEALING your dignity as you walk out.
?
John Vaughters


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From: Magnus <magnus at trilug.org>
To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion <trilug at trilug.org> 
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] OT Local Electronic DIY Store



On Jun 15, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

> Be careful what you wish for. When living in LA, I shopped at Frys a
> few times, until the the hassle of detention for theft (I had paid for
> the goods) overwhelmed the benefit of getting better prices than the
> worst of the amateur vendors in the city.

If you want that sort of shopping experience, check out TigerDirect on Capitol Blvd in Raleigh. I'd written about this here a few years back:

http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/DcNgbBmaaVLd7oazEzj5

That was the last time TigerDirect got a penny from me.

-M
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From pete at soper.us  Mon Jun 17 09:35:38 2013
From: pete at soper.us (Pete Soper)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:35:38 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] OT Local Electronic DIY Store
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On 6/17/2013 8:37 AM, John Vaughters wrote:
> I am going to Atlanta next week, and I am going to stop at one of the FRY's to see if they still carry a decent amount of components. I'll let you know if they are still STEALING your dignity as you walk out.
>   
Aha, a second one in Alpharetta. That's actually where I would have 
thought the first one would go rather than Duluth. Or maybe when I poked 
around looking for them a few months back the Alpharetta store just 
wasn't shown.

But speaking of "local resources", I have a buddy who lives in Arlington 
Texas and he can almost walk to the will-call counter at Mouser, that 
lucky dog.

-Pete



From bdmc at buadh-brath.com  Mon Jun 17 12:40:23 2013
From: bdmc at buadh-brath.com (Brian McCullough)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:40:23 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] [Have A Job(s)]: Two Full Time Linux Engineer positions in
	RTP area
Message-ID: <20130617164022.GA13280@bdmcc-us.com>

Posting for a friend.  I will pass along any inquiries.



*Position 1:*
*
*
*
*
Location: Raleigh, NC

Salary Range : $75 to $85K and may go to $90K for a rock star

6 years experience with UNIX (FreeBSD) and perl and shell scripting / automation skills are a MUST.
We are planning to move to Ubuntu Linux BUT any UNIX or Linux experience is favorable as the skills are transferrable i.e., UNIX (FreeBSD) is Ideal BUT we do not want to loose out good Unix and Linux candidates just because they do not have UNIX (FreeBSD) experience.

This role is for some one who loves to solve problems that come up on a daily basis in Production systems.

Systems Engineer 2

A Systems Engineer is responsible for engineering, building, troubleshooting, and maintaining internal and production systems. Systems Engineers maintain all hardware, operating systems, network equipment, and other IT assets.

Role and Responsibilities

   - Manages existing hardware and software configurations, including participating in 24x7 on-call rotation
   - Documents solutions, including planning, build, and maintenance plans
   - Installs new software releases and system upgrades; evaluates and installs patches and resolves software-related problems
   - Maintains data files and monitors system configuration to ensure data integrity
   - Proactively manages and supports all software environments, such as development, test, training, and production instances for size, performance, patch versions, etc.
   - Provide technical support required to maintain configuration control files
   - Identify and resolve errors or problems with existing programs


Qualifications

   - 2+ years of experience in the field or in a related area or 6 years of hands-on experience
   - 3+ years of engineering application implementation, administration, and support experience
   - Familiarity and experience with Linux, Unix, and/or FreeBSD
   - Strong analytical and problem-solving skills
   - Solid Linux administration skills on any distribution
   - Knowledge of centralized authentication, management, and monitoring systems


Education

Bachelor's degree in a related area

*
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*

*
*

*Position 2*

*
*

*Sr Software Engineer II - Real Time Embedded Linux *





Location: Morrisville, NC



Salary Range: $100 - $125K





*Ideally looking for candidates who have protocol development experience If they do not have that experience atleast who is passionate and energetic about learning protocol software development*



Responsibilities:

-   Design, Develop and Test real-time time Linux-based software in the domain of wireless LTE 4G mobile technology

-   Create innovative product features and capabilities on a multi-core, multi-processor system

-   Analyze existing subsystems, propose new SW architectures and refactor software for increased performance and scalability

-   Champion new ideas and participate in best-in-class development methodologies including Agile, test driven software development

-   Develop software in Linux kernel and user space for both existing and new hardware

-   Work to integrate the best of class ideas from local product team leads as well as world-wide team leads

-   Work with customers on existing product operation to both aid their success and to help spawn new innovative product ideas



Key Knowledge:

*Linux:*

                Kernel

  Drivers

                Firmware

                Embedded system

Wireless protocols:

LTE / LTE-A -- possibly 3G (UMTS/CDMA)

3GPP TS 36

RLC / MAC / PHY

Platforms:

                PowerPC

                DSP

Requirements:

-   BS Computer Science or equivalent

-   2+ years Real-time embedded software development experience in Linux

-   Demonstrated proficiency in C and C++, scripting languages and general software development tool chains

-   Knowledge and experience with wireless 3GPP technologies, especially LTE preferred

-   Possesses a tremendous passion for innovation and high-energy product development

-   Self-starter with excellent attention to detail and a passion for quality




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From mblackburn at glenraven.com  Mon Jun 17 14:32:09 2013
From: mblackburn at glenraven.com (Blackburn, Marvin)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:32:09 +0000
Subject: [TriLUG] Data Center Assessments
Message-ID: <832C7BB56D3148499C861CDFC1829C1814F97E37@bdc-exchdag1a>

Our datacenter is approximately 15 years old.  We would like to do an assessment to determine what if anything we can
do to optimize the space and determining components need to be updated and how to manage the space more efficiently.

I would be interested in any recommendations of companies that can do this type of service.


_____________________________________
"He's no failure. He's not dead yet."
William Lloyd George




From ironfroggy at gmail.com  Tue Jun 18 16:44:50 2013
From: ironfroggy at gmail.com (Calvin Spealman)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:44:50 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] GDIRDU Introduction to Python Class
Message-ID: <CAGaVwhSgf7qnuSA=Mp1wMp9VvohczLzTB5Gq56DaRcetsN9vhA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everyone!

Just wanted to shoot a quick email to the group about an "Introduction
to Python" class series Girl Develop It RDU
(http://www.meetup.com/Girl-Develop-It-RDU/) is hosting at the end of
this month!

http://www.meetup.com/Girl-Develop-It-RDU/events/122999952/

The class is being taught by Caleb Smith
(https://twitter.com/CalebSmithNC), one of the many talented
developers
at Caktus Group (http://www.caktusgroup.com/). The venue for the class
has been graciously donated by Web Assign

(http://www.webassign.net/) (thank you Steve!) in Raleigh.

I am sure there are many people on this list who are not in need of an
introductory course, but wanted to post
here in case you know of anyone who might be interested! We'd also
love any help with promoting the class to other

groups and/or organizations too.

Please feel free to email the organizers with any questions! They are
very pretty thrilled to be
offering one of the first Python classes in the Girl Develop It
organization and are looking forward to bringing
more Python educational offerings to the Triangle.

I am posting this helping my colleague Julia Elman spread the word.
You can contact her at julia.elman (at) gmail.com,
on twitter as @juliaelman, or via her website http://juliaelman.com/

From magnus at trilug.org  Tue Jun 18 23:06:01 2013
From: magnus at trilug.org (Magnus)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:06:01 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] OT Local Electronic DIY Store
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On Jun 17, 2013, at 8:37 AM, John Vaughters wrote:

> Tiger stopped checking reciepts about a 6 months ago. Maybe not that far back. It doesn't really bother me, but just seems stupid to have a cash register 6 feet away from check point and think that you need to check again. What did I grab in a 6 foot distance? ok ok maybe 8 feet. Still, I guess I am old school, I do buy plenty on the web, but I truly just like looking at the stuff before I buy it. I have found prices to be the same or even better at the store than online. The clearance boxes can be real fruitful. 

They are as paranoid about the honesty of their cashiers as they are about their customers. That's why they put a receipt check so close to the cashier.

-M


From asterger at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 19 12:25:10 2013
From: asterger at earthlink.net (Alan Sterger)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:25:10 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] OT Local Electronic DIY Store
Message-ID: <51C1DB66.6050607@earthlink.net>

While out shopping, hit Tiger Direct on Capital. At the cash register 
for checkout the cashier turned my credit card over. I thought it odd as 
I was standing right there, it wasn't an online transaction.

 From Tiger, we went furniture shopping where the same card was denied 
due to the bank's Fraud Control department putting a hold on the card.  
Its my belief the Tiger cashier sent our credit card information to a 
confederate along with the CSV code from the back of the card.

Buyer beware at Tiger.

-- Alan S.

From arbarnhart at gmail.com  Wed Jun 19 12:35:54 2013
From: arbarnhart at gmail.com (Andy Barnhart)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:35:54 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] OT Local Electronic DIY Store
In-Reply-To: <51C1DB66.6050607@earthlink.net>
References: <51C1DB66.6050607@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CA+9L4EB7ehTQnLEjK_vndfk9Nv7ti+crL15Z0jOdVz1zMtV4NQ@mail.gmail.com>

All merchants are required by their credit card agreement to turn cards
over, look for the signature and ask for ID if there isn't one. They don't
all do it, but they are supposed to.


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Alan Sterger <asterger at earthlink.net>wrote:

> While out shopping, hit Tiger Direct on Capital. At the cash register for
> checkout the cashier turned my credit card over. I thought it odd as I was
> standing right there, it wasn't an online transaction.
>
> From Tiger, we went furniture shopping where the same card was denied due
> to the bank's Fraud Control department putting a hold on the card.  Its my
> belief the Tiger cashier sent our credit card information to a confederate
> along with the CSV code from the back of the card.
>
> Buyer beware at Tiger.
>
> -- Alan S.
> --
> This message was sent to: andy <arbarnhart at gmail.com>
> To unsubscribe, send a blank message to trilug-leave at trilug.org from that
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From bill at arrowsreach.com  Wed Jun 19 13:07:39 2013
From: bill at arrowsreach.com (Bill Farrow)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:07:39 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] OT Local Electronic DIY Store
In-Reply-To: <51C1DB66.6050607@earthlink.net>
References: <51C1DB66.6050607@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAPm8Nr3ZG77iB9LqFs6-3hkwc_H0AWzQsHoXixZ8OzdRZoWgQw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Alan Sterger <asterger at earthlink.net> wrote:
> While out shopping, hit Tiger Direct on Capital. At the cash register for
> checkout the cashier turned my credit card over. I thought it odd as I was

I use a low value credit card for purchases where the card leaves my possession.

Some people cover the CSV with a sticker to prevent that type of
thing.  I've also see it done on Drivers Licences to cover some
personal info that clerks do not need to verify your age when buying
alcohol.

It's a pity the US hasn't caught up with the rest of the world and
switched to chip based credit cards.

Bill

From dglanz at icloud.com  Wed Jun 19 19:15:25 2013
From: dglanz at icloud.com (Derek Glanz)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:15:25 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] OT need a job Jr Linux
Message-ID: <f1artes5419v96vd3duu1qtl.1371683660625@email.android.com>

Hello trilugers

After much tinkering with *nix , I would like to take the next step and get on-the-job training. I entered IT 4 yrs ago while in grad school. I listen well, am willing to learn, and work independently.

Please email me offline if you have any leads or suggestions.

Thank you.

Derek Glanz
dglanz at icloud.com

From sferich888 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 19 20:46:50 2013
From: sferich888 at gmail.com (Eric Rich)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:46:50 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] OT need a job Jr Linux
In-Reply-To: <f1artes5419v96vd3duu1qtl.1371683660625@email.android.com>
References: <f1artes5419v96vd3duu1qtl.1371683660625@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CAJvbgvTLLbVO9o7_KEqR=5_n_H334wVw4ckXoaysL2obo9uZYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Red Hat is always hiring ...
http://jobs.redhat.com/
On Jun 19, 2013 8:18 PM, "Derek Glanz" <dglanz at icloud.com> wrote:

> Hello trilugers
>
> After much tinkering with *nix , I would like to take the next step and
> get on-the-job training. I entered IT 4 yrs ago while in grad school. I
> listen well, am willing to learn, and work independently.
>
> Please email me offline if you have any leads or suggestions.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Derek Glanz
> dglanz at icloud.com
> --
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From bwpeddyc at ncsu.edu  Wed Jun 19 21:00:53 2013
From: bwpeddyc at ncsu.edu (Barry Peddycord III)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:00:53 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] IEEE Talk Tomorrow Night - Jeff Krukin and Space
	Entrepeneurship
Message-ID: <51C25445.90406@ncsu.edu>

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Hey everyone! I just wanted to bring to your attention a presentation
being held by the IEEE tomorrow night!

Jeff Krukin, a former IBM systems engineer with NASA, will be speaking
about the commercial space industry. The talk is being hosted at First
Flight Venture Center in RTP at 6:00 PM. Food will be served.

Speaker bio, venue address, and more details are available here:
https://meetings.vtools.ieee.org/meeting_view/list_meeting/18895

~ Barry Peddycord

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From magnus at trilug.org  Thu Jun 20 09:05:22 2013
From: magnus at trilug.org (Magnus)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:05:22 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] OT need a job Jr Linux
In-Reply-To: <f1artes5419v96vd3duu1qtl.1371683660625@email.android.com>
References: <f1artes5419v96vd3duu1qtl.1371683660625@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <35734A6E-037E-43C9-8F80-6A087D6DD968@trilug.org>

Derek,

It's not listed on our site yet, but I'm hiring engineers for a cross functional operations team for Amplify Education in downtown Durham. I guess the trendy kids are calling it DevOps, but the day to day work is a mix of developing automation tools for managing a large cloud-based infrastructure, supporting developer-facing operations, as well as student/teacher-facing production infrastructure. We've got a mix of people from Development and Operations background on the team, so it makes for a really rich mix of ideas on how to best solve problems for the business. 

Drop a note to me at my work address, mhedemark at amplify.com, and we can talk some more. I'm the hiring manager for the team, not a recruiter.

I've got a couple of seats open on the team right now and I'm game to bring in anything from very senior level engineers on down to people who are more junior or intermediate in experience. We've got a steady flow of work from the product teams we support, and could use help even if that means we're growing someone who isn't that seasoned yet.

-Magnus

On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Derek Glanz wrote:

> Hello trilugers
> 
> After much tinkering with *nix , I would like to take the next step and get on-the-job training. I entered IT 4 yrs ago while in grad school. I listen well, am willing to learn, and work independently.
> 
> Please email me offline if you have any leads or suggestions.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Derek Glanz
> dglanz at icloud.com
> -- 
> This message was sent to: Magnus <magnus at trilug.org>
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From d.joshi84 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 20 09:35:05 2013
From: d.joshi84 at gmail.com (Dhaval Joshi)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:05:05 +0530
Subject: [TriLUG] Creating Spec file for rpm ( RHEL )
Message-ID: <CACDG_KeZAgtKqNDMMpdfuM++D8keJ8RxDPFOQfj471cMotqH5A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

is that anyone knows tool or any script which helps in creating spec file
for rpm ?

Regards,
DJ

From spwilliamsjr at gmail.com  Thu Jun 20 10:29:32 2013
From: spwilliamsjr at gmail.com (Steve Williams)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:29:32 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] Data Center Assessments
In-Reply-To: <832C7BB56D3148499C861CDFC1829C1814F97E37@bdc-exchdag1a>
References: <832C7BB56D3148499C861CDFC1829C1814F97E37@bdc-exchdag1a>
Message-ID: <22CBB8D0-D1B6-4623-8551-DE950A93F65E@gmail.com>

Not a cheap company but you get what you pay for in this type of service.

Worldwide Environmental Service
http://www.wes.net/

I highly recommend their services

On Jun 17, 2013, at 2:32 PM, "Blackburn, Marvin" <mblackburn at glenraven.com> wrote:

> Our datacenter is approximately 15 years old.  We would like to do an assessment to determine what if anything we can
> do to optimize the space and determining components need to be updated and how to manage the space more efficiently.
> 
> I would be interested in any recommendations of companies that can do this type of service.
> 
> 
> _____________________________________
> "He's no failure. He's not dead yet."
> William Lloyd George
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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From dboth at millennium-technology.com  Thu Jun 20 10:46:58 2013
From: dboth at millennium-technology.com (David Both)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:46:58 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] Creating Spec file for rpm ( RHEL )
In-Reply-To: <CACDG_KeZAgtKqNDMMpdfuM++D8keJ8RxDPFOQfj471cMotqH5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACDG_KeZAgtKqNDMMpdfuM++D8keJ8RxDPFOQfj471cMotqH5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51C315E2.3030309@millennium-technology.com>

I am not aware of any tools that will create a SPEC file from scratch.

Try the documentation below.

http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/s1-rpm-build-creating-spec-file.html

On 06/20/2013 09:35 AM, Dhaval Joshi wrote:
> Hello,
>
> is that anyone knows tool or any script which helps in creating spec file
> for rpm ?
>
> Regards,
> DJ

-- 

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"I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we 
don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that."
  - Thomas Edison, in conversation with Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone, 1931

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*********************************************************
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Millennium Technology Consulting LLC
919-389-8678

dboth at millennium-technology.com

www.millennium-technology.com
www.databook.bz - Home of the DataBook for Linux
DataBook is a Registered Trademark of David Both


From dbrain at gmail.com  Thu Jun 20 11:01:25 2013
From: dbrain at gmail.com (David Brain)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:01:25 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] Creating Spec file for rpm ( RHEL )
In-Reply-To: <CACDG_KeZAgtKqNDMMpdfuM++D8keJ8RxDPFOQfj471cMotqH5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACDG_KeZAgtKqNDMMpdfuM++D8keJ8RxDPFOQfj471cMotqH5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOSWJQ9yeZBDP-yf0NF9jZvevZSm2vJ4eOZLDCOtpVQ0KFsEoA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

There are some tools but they tend to be geared to very specific use
cases (I know there is a Ruby Gem to spec file generator).  On the
whole I find the best way to approach it is to find an existing spec
that does something close to what you are looking to do and use it as
a template.  The docs are pretty good on the whole, depending on the
complexity of your requirements you might want to look into Mock
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Projects/Mock) which can ease the setup
of the build environment.

David.

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Dhaval Joshi <d.joshi84 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> is that anyone knows tool or any script which helps in creating spec file
> for rpm ?
>
> Regards,
> DJ
> --
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From dragonstrider at gmail.com  Thu Jun 20 11:05:15 2013
From: dragonstrider at gmail.com (Joseph S. Tate)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:05:15 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] Creating Spec file for rpm ( RHEL )
In-Reply-To: <CACDG_KeZAgtKqNDMMpdfuM++D8keJ8RxDPFOQfj471cMotqH5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACDG_KeZAgtKqNDMMpdfuM++D8keJ8RxDPFOQfj471cMotqH5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+WDQbEkpWR=qbCyvnABvxHh+CyV1ys77NzVCb1hHpc_u6qWYQ@mail.gmail.com>

At this point, unless you're trying to get it into a distro, I'd just use
FPM. https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm/wiki then you get more than just
RPM.


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Dhaval Joshi <d.joshi84 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> is that anyone knows tool or any script which helps in creating spec file
> for rpm ?
>
> Regards,
> DJ
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From d.joshi84 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 20 11:54:10 2013
From: d.joshi84 at gmail.com (Dhaval Joshi)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:24:10 +0530
Subject: [TriLUG] Creating Spec file for rpm ( RHEL )
In-Reply-To: <51C315E2.3030309@millennium-technology.com>
References: <CACDG_KeZAgtKqNDMMpdfuM++D8keJ8RxDPFOQfj471cMotqH5A@mail.gmail.com>
 <51C315E2.3030309@millennium-technology.com>
Message-ID: <CACDG_KexKvg8eyZhvSJWvn-t61W=kTE-ELSmDrB+nU0j=+LQCw@mail.gmail.com>

Nope, actually i am looking for some script that helps end users to create
their own spec file and later use tito to create rpm using version control
...

or may be i have to develop script which can help to create spec file.


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:16 PM, David Both <dboth at millennium-technology.com
> wrote:

> I am not aware of any tools that will create a SPEC file from scratch.
>
> Try the documentation below.
>
> http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/s1-**rpm-build-creating-spec-file.**html<http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/s1-rpm-build-creating-spec-file.html>
>
> On 06/20/2013 09:35 AM, Dhaval Joshi wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> is that anyone knows tool or any script which helps in creating spec file
>> for rpm ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> DJ
>>
>
> --
>
> ***********************************************************
> "I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I
> hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle
> that."
>  - Thomas Edison, in conversation with Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone,
> 1931
>
> ***********************************************************
> David P. Both
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> ***********************************************************
> David P. Both, RHCE
> Millennium Technology Consulting LLC
> 919-389-8678
>
> dboth at millennium-technology.**com <dboth at millennium-technology.com>
>
> www.millennium-technology.com
> www.databook.bz - Home of the DataBook for Linux
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>
>

From scottchilcote at att.net  Fri Jun 21 11:32:55 2013
From: scottchilcote at att.net (Scott Chilcote)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:32:55 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] June 25: Github Training
In-Reply-To: <51B74F8F.5090700@ncsu.edu>
References: <51B74F44.1020202@ncsu.edu> <51B74F8F.5090700@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <51C47227.3030805@att.net>

Hi LUGgers,

The eventbrite page appears to indicate that this training session is
full.  It doesn't come right out and say it, but the "Remaining" column
is empty and the "Quantity" column has "Add to Waitlist".

Can anyone confirm?  I sent email to the training team asking if it's
closed.

I had plans to travel on business next week, but it got postponed.  I'd
like to attend if there's room.

Thanks much!

    Scott


On 06/11/2013 12:25 PM, Barry Peddycord III wrote:
> Hey all!
>
> The actual training team from Github is coming to NC State on June 25th
> for a training session. This is a great opportunity not just to learn
> Git, but to network with some really awesome folks in the industry. It
> won't just be students here, so I expect it will be great fun to be had
> by all!
>
> Register here if you'd like to go:
> https://github-nc-state-u.eventbrite.com/
>
> ~ Barry
>
>


-- 
Scott Chilcote
Cary, NC USA
scottchilcote at att.net


From ncdave4life at gmail.com  Fri Jun 21 12:50:56 2013
From: ncdave4life at gmail.com (David Burton)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:50:56 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] June 25: Github Training
In-Reply-To: <CAF1YxOD6XYutC-mrfqqtGqEdYYxLQRHyu1Vm01xen8i59EMCSw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51B74F44.1020202@ncsu.edu> <51B74F8F.5090700@ncsu.edu>
 <CAF1YxOD6XYutC-mrfqqtGqEdYYxLQRHyu1Vm01xen8i59EMCSw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALF61u6bS5YRn7tcrTVsD-bBeoOaTb0s2BZz7_XY53mwHjcd_w@mail.gmail.com>

My stupid Android phone's calendar does that, too.  Whenever I enter an
appointment it defaults to entering it as "Eastern Standard Time."  If I
don't notice and change it to "Eastern Time" then I'm an hour late to my
appointment.


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Stanley Karunditu <
stanley at juaconsulting.com> wrote:

> Would like to confirm what time it starts. Is it 1pm EST ? I think someone
> made a mistake putting the time in EventBrite as 1pm CEST instead of 1pm
> EST.

From grawburg at myglnc.com  Fri Jun 21 14:35:42 2013
From: grawburg at myglnc.com (Grawburg)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:35:42 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] GnuCash
Message-ID: <59b33008b826971878e3517c889298e3@myglnc.com>

Anyone using GnuCash?? I am specifically interested in how it might be an alternative to Quickbooks for Nonprofits.
It would be installed on a Linux and Windows XP machine.
I am specifically interested in how it handles the receipt of non-sales money (i.e. donations). Regular Quickbooks
treats everything as a sales receipt --- don't know how the version for Nonprofits does it.


Thanks,
Brian Grawburg





From ncdave4life at gmail.com  Fri Jun 21 14:39:57 2013
From: ncdave4life at gmail.com (David Burton)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:39:57 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <59b33008b826971878e3517c889298e3@myglnc.com>
References: <59b33008b826971878e3517c889298e3@myglnc.com>
Message-ID: <CALF61u595_RjaRN0qzY5khJ+HhVEJtdpSe3fYzqFubXEqy+xEA@mail.gmail.com>

I installed it quite a few years ago, and couldn't figure out how to use
it.  Haven't tried it since.  Hopefully it's improved.  Please let us know
what you learn.


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Grawburg <grawburg at myglnc.com> wrote:

> Anyone using GnuCash? ...

From sph0lt0n at gmail.com  Fri Jun 21 14:58:48 2013
From: sph0lt0n at gmail.com (Steve Holton)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:58:48 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <CALF61u595_RjaRN0qzY5khJ+HhVEJtdpSe3fYzqFubXEqy+xEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <59b33008b826971878e3517c889298e3@myglnc.com>
 <CALF61u595_RjaRN0qzY5khJ+HhVEJtdpSe3fYzqFubXEqy+xEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALxSUCVM+DAeBOSKmuZ+BXroe=bXkv8psfieLqKHtdhdyxpk6A@mail.gmail.com>

I use it as a replacement for Quicken.  I don't know how it compares to
QuickBooks.

I found I had to forget the 'Quicken' way of doing things: GnuCash uses the
double-entry
accounting method which I was able to pick up without too much trouble.

then again, I have no background in accounting, so other than seeing that
the numbers
add up I have no idea if I'm using it *correctly*.



On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM, David Burton <ncdave4life at gmail.com> wrote:

> I installed it quite a few years ago, and couldn't figure out how to use
> it.  Haven't tried it since.  Hopefully it's improved.  Please let us know
> what you learn.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Grawburg <grawburg at myglnc.com> wrote:
>
> > Anyone using GnuCash? ...
> --
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From bill at arrowsreach.com  Fri Jun 21 15:13:31 2013
From: bill at arrowsreach.com (Bill Farrow)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:13:31 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <CALxSUCVM+DAeBOSKmuZ+BXroe=bXkv8psfieLqKHtdhdyxpk6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <59b33008b826971878e3517c889298e3@myglnc.com>
 <CALF61u595_RjaRN0qzY5khJ+HhVEJtdpSe3fYzqFubXEqy+xEA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALxSUCVM+DAeBOSKmuZ+BXroe=bXkv8psfieLqKHtdhdyxpk6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPm8Nr1jKHQry+KiBTH+BfWeK3OYm0sWuR9hdbkfB89fp9_9yQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Steve Holton <sph0lt0n at gmail.com> wrote:
> I use it as a replacement for Quicken.  I don't know how it compares to
> QuickBooks.

I have used it in the past for personal finances. The TriLUG Steering
Committee uses it also.

Quicken and Quickbooks force/guide you to do things in a particular
way. I found that GnuCash was more flexible, but you also get less
guidance on how to initially structure things.  In the GnuCash double
entry accounting system, you would create an account for Donations and
money would come out of that account and go into your bank account.  I
don't know about generating invoices or receipts.

Bill

From dboth at millennium-technology.com  Fri Jun 21 15:24:49 2013
From: dboth at millennium-technology.com (David Both)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:24:49 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <59b33008b826971878e3517c889298e3@myglnc.com>
References: <59b33008b826971878e3517c889298e3@myglnc.com>
Message-ID: <51C4A881.3080207@millennium-technology.com>

I have been using GnuCash for over 10 years and I like it very much. It uses 
double-entry accounting which takes a bit of getting used to if you have not 
done it before, but is the only legal way to go for businesses and non-profits. 
I use two sets of books, one for my personal finances and one for my business. I 
also have a set of books I use for testing and demonstration.

You can set it up any way you want. It has a setup wizard that works well and 
you can set up anything from simple checkbook accounting to a set of corporate 
books. I don't recall that there is a non-profit option. It does have an 
invoicing system, but you do not need to use that to record income which can be 
assigned to any type of income or asset account you create such as 
Income=>Pledges or Income=>Cash Donations
etc. A pledge would be a form of receivable anyway so the matching entry for 
Income=>Pledges would be in Assets=>Accounts Receivable.

Sales is always one account for business income, but you can change the name to 
anything you want. An accountant would be able to advise you on the best 
structure for a set of accounts in a non-profit.

I use it on a Linux system.

I hope this helps.

On 06/21/2013 02:35 PM, Grawburg wrote:
> Anyone using GnuCash?  I am specifically interested in how it might be an alternative to Quickbooks for Nonprofits.
> It would be installed on a Linux and Windows XP machine.
> I am specifically interested in how it handles the receipt of non-sales money (i.e. donations). Regular Quickbooks
> treats everything as a sales receipt --- don't know how the version for Nonprofits does it.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Grawburg
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
>
>
> *********************************************************
> David P. Both, RHCE
> Millennium Technology Consulting LLC
> 919-389-8678
>
> dboth at millennium-technology.com
>
> www.millennium-technology.com
> www.databook.bz - Home of the DataBook for Linux
> DataBook is a Registered Trademark of David Both
>

From porter at trilug.org  Fri Jun 21 15:34:06 2013
From: porter at trilug.org (Alan Porter)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:34:06 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <59b33008b826971878e3517c889298e3@myglnc.com>
References: <59b33008b826971878e3517c889298e3@myglnc.com>
Message-ID: <51C4AAAE.8030504@trilug.org>


I use GnuCash for personal use and for a small consulting business, and
I used it for my TriLUG treasurer duties last year.

Somehow, I feel like this question about how GnuCash handles donations
is kind of like asking which word processor is best for a r?sum?. 
GnuCash is just a general ledger.  It keeps track of accounts, and it's
up to you to structure your accounts the way you want them.  Maybe some
tools will have specific walk-through wizards to help you enter certain
kinds of transactions.  But in the end, they are just transactions
between accounts.

I asked my dad (an accountant) about setting up accounts for things that
were not obvious to me.  For example, I did not know how TriLUG should
track donations and expenses for BarCamp 2013.  In that case, it was as
simple as creating a "BarCamp donations" account in the INCOME account
hierarchy, a "BarCamp expenses" account in the EXPENSES account
hierarchy, and a "PayPal" account in the ASSETS account hierarchy.  Then
you move amounts from one account to another as stuff happens.

Again, GnuCash is a basic double-accounting ledger.  There is very
little to guide you through specific transactions.  The only specific
"guides" that I use in GnuCash are (1) the screen for reconciling an
account against your bank statement (2) the screen for closing the books
at the end of the year.

One big plus for GnuCash is that it is cross platform.  I use it on Mac
and Linux.  And I can pass a GnuCash file to my dad to look at on Windows.

I can't compare GnuCash to QuickBooks, because I've never used
QuickBooks.  It is good for day-to-day personal finances, but its charts
and reports are somewhat weak compared to Quicken.  I do wish they had
more personal budget style reports and charts.

Alan



On 06/21/2013 02:35 PM, Grawburg wrote:
> Anyone using GnuCash?  I am specifically interested in how it might be an alternative to Quickbooks for Nonprofits.
> It would be installed on a Linux and Windows XP machine.
> I am specifically interested in how it handles the receipt of non-sales money (i.e. donations). Regular Quickbooks
> treats everything as a sales receipt --- don't know how the version for Nonprofits does it.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Grawburg
>
>
>
>


-- 
# Alan Porter


From jmack at wm7d.net  Fri Jun 21 15:53:23 2013
From: jmack at wm7d.net (Joseph Mack NA3T)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:53:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TriLUG] GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <51C4AAAE.8030504@trilug.org>
References: <59b33008b826971878e3517c889298e3@myglnc.com>
 <51C4AAAE.8030504@trilug.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1306211247070.26061@wm7d.net>

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013, Alan Porter wrote:

>
> I use GnuCash for personal use and for a small consulting business,

ditto about 15yrs. It's never failed me once in all that time. Completely 
reliable.

> Somehow, I feel like this question about how GnuCash handles donations
> is kind of like asking which word processor is best for a r?sum?.
> GnuCash is just a general ledger.  It keeps track of accounts, and it's
> up to you to structure your accounts the way you want them.  Maybe some
> tools will have specific walk-through wizards to help you enter certain
> kinds of transactions.  But in the end, they are just transactions
> between accounts.

gnucash is an accounting program. You have to know how to do accounts. There is 
a hefty accounting manual for gnucash. I started with the first two chapters in 
the Schaum's book on Accounting. I have needed help from accounting knowledgable 
people over the years. How to do things is not always obvious, but in retrospect 
you can see that it's right.

As we found out from Enron, there are any number of ways of accounting for 
money, all of them right.

I set up my ledgers exactly the way the tax forms are setup.

> I asked my dad (an accountant) about setting up accounts for things that
> were not obvious to me.  For example, I did not know how TriLUG should
> track donations and expenses for BarCamp 2013.  In that case, it was as
> simple as creating a "BarCamp donations" account in the INCOME account
> hierarchy, a "BarCamp expenses" account in the EXPENSES account
> hierarchy, and a "PayPal" account in the ASSETS account hierarchy.  Then
> you move amounts from one account to another as stuff happens.

you do this sort of thing all the time.

Joe
-- 
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generator at http://www.wm7d.net/azproj.shtml
Homepage http://www.austintek.com/ It's GNU/Linux!

From jvaughters04 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 21 15:56:48 2013
From: jvaughters04 at yahoo.com (John Vaughters)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:56:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TriLUG] GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1306211247070.26061@wm7d.net>
References: <59b33008b826971878e3517c889298e3@myglnc.com>
 <51C4AAAE.8030504@trilug.org> <Pine.LNX.4.64.1306211247070.26061@wm7d.net>
Message-ID: <1371844608.49767.YahooMailNeo@web163005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

>As we found out from Enron, there are any number of ways of accounting for money, all of them right.

How appriate, and on the day that Jeffery Skilling got his sentence reduced by ten years. Now he only has to serve 14 years `,~>

From mblackburn at glenraven.com  Fri Jun 21 17:28:41 2013
From: mblackburn at glenraven.com (Blackburn, Marvin)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 21:28:41 +0000
Subject: [TriLUG] Data Center Assessments
In-Reply-To: <22CBB8D0-D1B6-4623-8551-DE950A93F65E@gmail.com>
References: <832C7BB56D3148499C861CDFC1829C1814F97E37@bdc-exchdag1a>
 <22CBB8D0-D1B6-4623-8551-DE950A93F65E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <832C7BB56D3148499C861CDFC1829C1814FA00C4@bdc-exchdag1a>

Thank yo for the recommendation.

-----Original Message-----
From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Williams
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:30 AM
To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Data Center Assessments

Not a cheap company but you get what you pay for in this type of service.

Worldwide Environmental Service
http://www.wes.net/

I highly recommend their services

On Jun 17, 2013, at 2:32 PM, "Blackburn, Marvin" <mblackburn at glenraven.com> wrote:

> Our datacenter is approximately 15 years old.  We would like to do an assessment to determine what if anything we can
> do to optimize the space and determining components need to be updated and how to manage the space more efficiently.
> 
> I would be interested in any recommendations of companies that can do this type of service.
> 
> 
> _____________________________________
> "He's no failure. He's not dead yet."
> William Lloyd George
> 
> 
> 
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From nivex at nivex.net  Fri Jun 21 21:45:29 2013
From: nivex at nivex.net (Kevin Otte)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 21:45:29 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] action on reboot
Message-ID: <51C501B9.1070603@nivex.net>

For those of you who run IRC bouncers and the like on pilot but aren't 
always around to bring them back up after the maintenance reboots:

The cron in most Linux distros of the day allows you to specify 
"@reboot" in lieu of the usual 5-number time specification.

By way of example, if I want ZNC to start up when the box does:

kjotte at pilot:~$ crontab -e

You will be taken into an editor. Add this line to the file:
@reboot            /usr/bin/znc

Save the file and exit the editor. The crontab file will be verified and 
installed. Voil?!

-- Kevin

From jc.jones at tuftux.com  Fri Jun 21 22:41:02 2013
From: jc.jones at tuftux.com (James Jones)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 22:41:02 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <CALxSUCVM+DAeBOSKmuZ+BXroe=bXkv8psfieLqKHtdhdyxpk6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <59b33008b826971878e3517c889298e3@myglnc.com>
 <CALF61u595_RjaRN0qzY5khJ+HhVEJtdpSe3fYzqFubXEqy+xEA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALxSUCVM+DAeBOSKmuZ+BXroe=bXkv8psfieLqKHtdhdyxpk6A@mail.gmail.com>
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GnuCash is what I use for bank account reconcilation. Numbers add up. Don't
have an idea If I am using it as it was designed, but the numbers add up.

jcj


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Steve Holton <sph0lt0n at gmail.com> wrote:

> I use it as a replacement for Quicken.  I don't know how it compares to
> QuickBooks.
>
> I found I had to forget the 'Quicken' way of doing things: GnuCash uses the
> double-entry
> accounting method which I was able to pick up without too much trouble.
>
> then again, I have no background in accounting, so other than seeing that
> the numbers
> add up I have no idea if I'm using it *correctly*.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM, David Burton <ncdave4life at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I installed it quite a few years ago, and couldn't figure out how to use
> > it.  Haven't tried it since.  Hopefully it's improved.  Please let us
> know
> > what you learn.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Grawburg <grawburg at myglnc.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Anyone using GnuCash? ...
> > --
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From timjowers at gmail.com  Sun Jun 23 17:30:42 2013
From: timjowers at gmail.com (Tim Jowers)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:30:42 -0400
Subject: [TriLUG] GnuCash
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References: <59b33008b826971878e3517c889298e3@myglnc.com>
 <CALF61u595_RjaRN0qzY5khJ+HhVEJtdpSe3fYzqFubXEqy+xEA@mail.gmail.com>
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Also use GnuCash for my scorp. Used to use Quickbooks in the 1990's. Seem
to be about equivalent for me. I don't do payroll through either.
Every year I make a report of my Income Statement, Transactions, and
Balance Sheet and send to my accountant for filing my taxes. No issues so
far.

Thanks,
Tim



On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:41 PM, James Jones <jc.jones at tuftux.com> wrote:

> GnuCash is what I use for bank account reconcilation. Numbers add up. Don't
> have an idea If I am using it as it was designed, but the numbers add up.
>
> jcj
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Steve Holton <sph0lt0n at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I use it as a replacement for Quicken.  I don't know how it compares to
> > QuickBooks.
> >
> > I found I had to forget the 'Quicken' way of doing things: GnuCash uses
> the
> > double-entry
> > accounting method which I was able to pick up without too much trouble.
> >
> > then again, I have no background in accounting, so other than seeing that
> > the numbers
> > add up I have no idea if I'm using it *correctly*.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM, David Burton <ncdave4life at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I installed it quite a few years ago, and couldn't figure out how to
> use
> > > it.  Haven't tried it since.  Hopefully it's improved.  Please let us
> > know
> > > what you learn.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Grawburg <grawburg at myglnc.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Anyone using GnuCash? ...
> > > --
> > > This message was sent to: sph0lt0n at gmail.com <sph0lt0n at gmail.com>
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