[TriLUG] Have A Job ( Forwarded )

[Peter Neilson via TriLUG]

Didn't Scott Adams make an entire career criticizing the kind of  
pointy-haired thought that goes into that kind of job description?

Could be worse. Over in the tech writing list to which I subscribe someone  
reported being asked by a recruiter to add several "skills" that he did  
not have to his resume. About ten thousand replies all said, "Drop that  
turkey recruiter!"

Famous and ethical recruiter Nick Corcodilos  
(http://www.asktheheadhunter.com/) has written lots of essays about the  
shotgun approach that infests that PHP ad.

On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 18:03:22 -0500, William Sutton via TriLUG  
<trilug at trilug.org> wrote:

> some nit picking (ranting??), below...
>
> William Sutton
>
> On Wed, 8 Feb 2017, Brian McCullough via TriLUG wrote:
>
>> Forwarding for a friend:
>>
>>
>> He is looking for a PHP-knowledgeable programmer, as follows:
>
> --snip--
>
>> Salary is MAX $70K.
>
> --snip--
>
>> Education and Experience
>> 3 -5 years of combined experience in web based software development and
>> data warehousing and Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or
>> related field.
>
> --snip--
>
>> SUMMARY
>> Responsible for the software application development and maintenance in
>> a horizontally and vertically scaled environment. The Software Developer
>> will develop effective information technology capabilities by developing
>> processes and systems that increase productivity and efficiency.  High
>> levels of knowledge and experience in open source and commercial
>> products in the area of content management systems (CMS), customer
>> relationship management (CRM), enterprise resource planning (ERP), and
>> other solutions in a virtualization and cloud computing environment.
>
> Oh glory.  HR-ese.  And they expect a 3-5 year junior developer to be  
> able to do all that?
>
>>
>> QUALIFICATION AND COMPETENCIES
>> Bachelor's degree in Computer Science, or Information Technology
>> related field, or equivalent, from an accredited college or university;
>> AND 3 - 5 years of combined experience in application development
>
> second time that was mentioned....
>
>> related to CRM, CMS, and ERP solutions in an open source environment.
>> Experience developing in PHP.
>> Experience using AJAX, JQuery, JSON, CSS and HTML.
>> Experience using RESTful web services.
>> Experience developing with Microsoft SQL and MySQL.
>> Experience in UI development.
>> Expose to SharePoint.
>> Expose to Microsoft .NET framework, C#, ASP, VB.
>>
>
> 3-5 years of experience but HR threw in a buffet list of web, UNIX, and  
> Windows technologies.
>
> I guess they want a Rock Star (TM) and a few other things?
>
> --
>
> Some of my personal pet peeves about job descriptions and requirements  
> lists is that
> 1. the descriptions tend to be written in HR-ese or management-ese.  If  
> I have to translate between that and reasonably clear English, I  
> probably don't want to bother with the job (not that I do PHP anyway).
> 2. the requirements sometimes bear little internal cohesion.  3-5 years  
> of experience, but a skill set had by someone with closer to 10 years?   
> In particular, it often appears that HR (or recruiter) job descriptions  
> evolve as a result of "This is the last requirements set we put out.  
> Let's add a couple more technologies and see if someone bites."  And  
> then you end up with the above, or (worse), 10 years experience with  
> Oracle, SQL Server, Windows administration for XP through 2012, Linux  
> administration on RHEL, knows Perl, Python, PHP, XML, J2EE, Agile,  
> <longer list of buzzwords added here>, and will only work for $80k/yr.
>
> Chances are that the extensive list of requirements is going to scare  
> off the alleged target audience (developers with 3-5 years of  
> experience) (because they have some, but not nearly all of the required  
> skills) and get bit-bucketed by the more senior folks (I got 15 years  
> and want $85k). So the folks you do get will be
> 1. ridiculously amazing for the specified parameters (very unlikely, I  
> think)
> 2. puffing or fibbing on something and hoping it doesn't get noticed
> 3. desparate
>
> but that's just my $0.02 from floating around the IT industry for going  
> on 20 years.