excuse me?! (was Re: [triLUG] any clues?)

Beth Ellison leonardbernst55 at hotmail.com
Thu Nov 29 08:22:39 EST 2001


>D I S A G R E E ! ! ! !

Okay. You have trouble running your peripherals. You're right. The manuals 
suck. :|

Any problems other than peripherals?

By the way, I said the manuals can help a person install, get started, and 
do some configuration. I didn't say the manuals are perfect little wizards 
that can understand and fix every nuance of every computer out there. Lots 
and lots and lots of people have had zero trouble getting 7.2 to do exactly 
what they want. You aren't part of that lots and lots. Sorry.



>
>To get to the point that you describe you must first get the OS to operate 
>as advertised.  Installing from rh
>6.2 to rh 7.2 required more then just ingesting the information between the 
>covers of the manuals provided.
>
>For example to get the peripherals to work I had to re-installing 
>printconf, modify the PAM modules, and the
>XF86Config file.  But the biggest and still unresolved problem is using  
>the TDK CDRW121032 drive.  I can not
>get sound when playing music CDs.  Implementing sndconfig and selecting 
>soundblaster allows the CMI8330/C3D
>sound chip on the motherboard to work.  It is not the audio cable from the 
>CDRW drive to the motherboard.  In
>win95/rh6.2 I can/could play music CDs.
>
>The included manuals provided no help in this area.  What would have help 
>is troubleshooting information,
>something that M$ windows never provides.
>
>jjc
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>jjc
>
>Beth Ellison wrote:
>
> > >I haven't seen the 7.2 manuals, but from what I've
> > >seen of the 7.1 manuals, Red Hat documentation is like
> > >a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going
> > >to get. Most of the user manual was incoherent and
> > >contained scattered bits of cutesy tutorials on things
> > >like making pretty pictures with Gimp or browsing
> > >Usenet or the history of the Bourne shell,and not a
> > >whole lot about setting up a basic system and getting
> > >everything to work.
> >
> > "...scattered bits of cutesy tutorials/incoherent" my ass. Anyone who 
>sits
> > down with the *user guide* (the Getting Started Guide) and reads it from 
>the
> > beginning, like you should when approaching something as daunting as a 
>new
> > OS, can easily learn how to log in, create a user account, get online,
> > customize the desktop, print, manage files, create basic files, etc. And 
>it
> > gives lots of references for additional information elsewhere. It's not
> > perfect, but it's a damn good book. I think you were reading the News &
> > Observer, not the Red Hat GSG.
> >
> > Love,
> > Beth
> >
> > I could easily see how someone
> > >just starting out as a linux user wouldn't find it
> > >very useful. I do think that people should ask for
> > >help politely using coherent sentances that resemble
> > >spoken english, but I also think people should
> > >RTFM (such as the one below) ;)
> > >
> > 
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> > >
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